[optimal] Re: film slide archiving

  • From: "Hackel, Richard" <rhackel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:20:44 +0000

We've been using just such set-up for a few years now, but now the Beseler 
slide copier has quit and refuses most forms of repair attempts. I may still 
try more invasive repair or replace it with something else.

We used it to have a photo intern archive our entire teaching collection, and 
it worked well. All was shot in camera raw, and tweaked on post-processing. It 
was very efficient and good quality.
Thanks.

Richard
From: Marshall Tyler <marshalletyler@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marshalletyler@xxxxxxxxx>>
Reply-To: <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:02:39 -0500
To: <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [optimal] Re: film slide archiving

Richard,
 Using a digital camera on a slide duplicator (made for film slide dupes) lets 
you manually copy about 6 slides per minute.
 Remember that if you are using an older Nikon to dupe (red) fundus photos, 
make sure that you check the exposure in Photoshop. The older Nikons only show 
the Green channel on the in-camera histogram. Hey, not much green in the 
fundus, so you will end up over exposing.
 I use tungsten illumination and autobalance with no slide in place and stopped 
down 2 stops to get to a light grey exposure.
 Good luck finding a photo intern to do it ! !
Marshall
Marshall E Tyler, BS, CRA, FOPS, Retired!
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MTyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:MTyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Lydia Dimmer 
<lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi,
Just saw you replied...  I'm trying to get everything together to post, but 
we're having a little exciting weather right now and there are widespread power 
outages, so I don't know if I will continue to have access to my PC at work, 
where I keep those files.

Lydia Dimmer, COT, CRA, OCT-C
Eye Associates Northwest, PC
Seattle, WA
206/342-6140<tel:206%2F342-6140>



> From: rhackel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rhackel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Re: film slide archiving
> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:01:38 +0000

>
> Thank you everyone for your responses. It's been very helpful in
> strategizing what to do. I think we're going to scan back to 1995, and
> only of the living, and put off-site the older files to keep everyone
> happy. (Their current location is up for re-use, so thus the urgency!)
>
> Richard
>
> On 1/18/12 2:37 PM, "CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center"
> <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> >We digitized our entire Eye Pathology department over the past decade.
> >For the most part, sending slides to Scan Café is the cheapest and
> >easiest. Unless you have a volunteer, the labor is intensive.
> >
> >We've had this collection on line since 2003 via WILLOW.
> >
> >I agree, it's a process. We got rid of a thirty year storage room of
> >negatives and slides.
> >
> >CA state law is we only have to save for 10.
> >
> >Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
> >Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
> >CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
> >2100 Webster Street Suite 212
> >San Francisco CA 94115
> >(415) 600-3937<tel:%28415%29%20600-3937> FAX (415) 
> >600-6563<tel:%28415%29%20600-6563>
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >[mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> >On Behalf Of Peterson John C
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:57 AM
> >To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [optimal] Re: film slide archiving
> >
> >We hired a part-time student to scan in our slide archive. At this
> >writing, we're half-way done, and we expect it to take another year at
> >least. The project is an exercise in compromise, and trying to get the
> >biggest bang for our buck.
> >
> >He uses an Epson V750 Pro flatbed scanner with transparency capability,
> >which scans 12 slides at a pop. He is instructed to scan slides from the
> >first and last visit; when in doubt, he sets a chart aside for one of us
> >to look at, and to select the slides to be scanned.
> >
> >Our chart room regularly purges charts (including photos) of patients
> >who haven't been seen here in the last four years. This reduces the
> >volume significantly. Photos are never destroyed, but go into long-term
> >storage somewhere, where they are retrievable. In theory, anyway. This
> >is where both scanned and purged photo charts land.
> >
> >Our student cross-checks MR#s with our EMR for deceased patients. The
> >remainder get scanned as I've described above. His workstation has an
> >upload link to our Eyeroute system. While the scanner is running, he'll
> >upload. There's actually surprisingly little downtime for him, in
> >between uploading, preparing the next slide tray, reloading the slide
> >pages, and regular runs to the chart room downstairs.
> >
> >We scan .jpgs with minimal compression at 1200 dpi. At that resolution,
> >a slide can be enlarged on our 87 ppi monitors to roughly 14x20 in.
> >That's plenty big to pick out detail. We use "Digital ICE" which adds to
> >the scan time but eliminates retouching of dust spots.
> >
> >Uploaded slides are identified as "scanned slides" in the comment
> >section in ER, so that one of the staff photogs can cross-check the
> >accuracy of the database entries. The work can be monotonous, and
> >mistakes are inevitable. Correcting those mistakes takes time.
> >
> >That's it in a nut.
> >
> >********
> >John C. Peterson, BS, CRA
> >Director of Ophthalmic Photography Services
> >UW Health Eye Clinic
> >2880 University Ave., Rm. 246
> >Madison, WI 53705
> >(608) 263-7163<tel:%28608%29%20263-7163>
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >[mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> >On Behalf Of Hackel, Richard
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:44 PM
> >To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [optimal] film slide archiving
> >
> >As we are looking at what to do with our film slides and negatives from
> >10 years ago before we went digital, I am curious to know how others are
> >presently dealing with this headache? I know some have made successful
> >scans of entire huge libraries, but we have not been successful at
> >getting this done very efficiently.
> >
> >Are you scanning collections like this that are 10-plus years old?
> >Attempts I've made over the past few years to scan, even with speedy
> >slide-copier-scanning methods, have been way to slow for the volume we
> >have. Most of the time is spent not with scanning, but that pesky task
> >of labeling and uploading.
> >
> >Now I am faced with losing the storage space for these films. Anybody
> >else in a similar sinking boat? What are you doing? Staying with the
> >ship and making sure all scans get off board before the ship sinks, or
> >hightailing it off the boat?
> >
> >Thanks for your perspectives!
> >
> >Richard
> >
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