So sad to hear the news. I remember Bill so well and his training methods were excellent. He will be greatly missed. Harry Kachadoorian ________________________________ From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ron Zielinski Sent: Sun 3/18/2012 8:13 PM To: Optimal Subject: [optimal] INQUIRY When did William Ludwick pass away? He trained me way back in 1972-73 at USC. Can anyone let me know