Re: Survey including children needs

  • From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 15:05:30 -0500

First=20of=20all,=20I=20don't=20really=20think=20the=20small=20minority=20=
among=20the=20legally=20blind=20who=20are=20using=20the=20Optacon,=20even=20=
smaller=20than=20those=20using=20braille,=20are=20going=20to=20have=20
much=20of=20a=20"real=20chance"=20of=20jump=20starting=20remanufacture,=20=
or=20redevelopment=20of=20the=20device.=20=20Obviously,=20at=20least=20to=20=
me,=20the=20Optacon=20is=20an=20adjunct=20to=20braille=20and=20
OCR=20technology,=20both=20of=20which=20enable=20a=20person=20to=20plow=20=
through=20large=20volumes=20of=20information=20quickly.=20=20I=20was=20a=20=
160WPM=20Optacon=20user,=20and=20have=20read=20
numerous=20books=20and=20periodicals=20with=20the=20device=20between=20197=
2=20and=201989,=20when=20I=20got=20my=20first=20OCR=20system...=20=20Howev=
er,=20the=20Optacon=20does=20do=20things,=20as=20a=20
direct=20analog=20means=20of=20accessing=20visually=20presented=20data,=20=
that=20neither=20braille=20paper=20or=20refreshible,=20or=20an=20OCR=20sys=
tem=20can=20do--note=20that=20I=20don't=20just=20refer=20to=20
written=20materials,=20as=20I've=20used=20it=20to=20look=20at=20clothing=20=
paternss=20stains=20on=20clothing,=20displays=20of=20metering=20equipment/=
musical/and=20consumer=20electronics,=20
schematics/charts=20and=20graphs,=20and=20my=20late=20Angel-Bride=20Margie=
,=20used=20it=20to=20read=20stalved=20musical=20notation=20and=20handwriti=
ng...=20=20So,=20it=20isn't,=20and=20can't=20be=20seen=20as=20
an=20either/or=20proposition,=20but=20just=20another=20tool=20in=20the=20w=
ell=20prepared=20blind=20person's=20arsenal=20for=20coping=20with=20a=20wo=
rld=20built=20for=20and=20by=20the=20visually=20abled...=20=20(grin)

Nick

On=20Tue,=202=20May=202006=2021:50:07=20+0200,=20Francesca=20Diodati=20wro=
te:

=20Hi=20Mike,=20you=20have=20your=20fire-proof=20suit=20on?=20LOL.
=20No=20need=20for=20it=20:-),=20although=20I=20kind=20of=20disagree=20wit=
h=20you...I=20don't=20think=20
=20braille=20should=20have=20priority=20over=20the=20optacon=20at=20all.=20=
I'm=20probably=20an=20
=20exception=20to=20the=20rule=20as=20I=20learned=20the=20optacon=20many=20=
years=20before=20I=20learned=20
=20braille.=20I'm=20perfectly=20OK=20with=20it=20but=20I=20won't=20say=20t=
his=20is=20necessarily=20the=20
=20best=20choice=20for=20all=20blind=20children.=20However=20I=20know=20bl=
ind=20kids=20my=20age=20often=20
=20learned=20the=20optacon=20and=20braille=20at=20the=20same=20time,=20and=
=20they=20were=20able=20to=20
=20enjoy=20the=20advantages=20of=20both.

=20Take=20care

=20Fran
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----=20
=20From:=20"Mike=20Freeman"=20<k7uij@xxxxxxxxx>
=20To:=20<optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20May=2001,=202006=206:24=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20Survey=20including=20children=20needs


=20>=20Fran:
=20>
=20>=20I=20may=20get=20flamed=20for=20this=20one,=20but=20...
=20>
=20>
=20>=20I=20think=20we=20should=20limit=20the=20survey=20to=20adults=20for=20=
the=20moment.=20I=20say=20this
=20>=20for=20ideological=20reasons.=20While=20some=20children=20to=20extre=
mely=20well=20with=20the
=20>=20Optacon,=20school=20districts=20often=20found=20it=20all-too-easy=20=
to=20use=20the
=20>=20availability=20of=20the=20Optacon=20as=20an=20excuse=20not=20to=20p=
rovide=20adequate=20braille
=20>=20instruction=20to=20blind=20students.=20TeleSensory=20played=20into=20=
this=20abomination
=20>=20by=20implying=20without=20saying=20it=20that=20the=20Optacon=20migh=
t=20make=20the=20need=20for
=20>=20braille=20moot.=20I=20believe=20both=20organizations=20of=20the=20b=
lind=20in=20this=20country
=20>=20challenged=20this=20silliness=20and=20TeleSensory=20backed=20off.
=20>
=20>=20Whatever=20the=20history,=20there=20are=20only=20so=20many=20hours=20=
in=20a=20day=20and=20I
=20>=20believe=20we=20cannot=20afford=20the=20luxury=20of=20pushing=20the=20=
Optacon=20as=20a=20useful
=20>=20device=20for=20children=20unless=20and=20until=20we=20are=20assured=
=20that=20they=20are
=20>=20getting=20good=20braille=20instruction.=20The=20two=20modalities=20=
complement=20each
=20>=20other.
=20>
=20>=20<<FIRE-PROOF=20SUIT=20ON>>
=20>
=20>=20Mike=20Freeman
=20>
=20>=20On=20Sun,=2030=20Apr=202006,=20Francesca=20Diodati=20wrote:
=20>
=20>>=20Hi=20Catherine=20and=20all,
=20>>=20I'm=20going=20to=20post=20the=20survey=20to=20a=20list=20I'm=20on,=
=20however=20I=20realized=20the
=20>>=20questions=20seem=20to=20be=20directed=20specifically=20to=20blind=20=
adults,=20living
=20>>=20independently,=20working=20etc.=20Since=20the=20list=20where=20I'm=
=20about=20to=20post=20also
=20>>=20comprises=20many=20parents=20of=20blind=20children,=20I'm=20not=20=
sure=20if=20the=20survey=20is
=20>>=20appropriate=20for=20them.=20I=20was=20about=20to=20add=20to=20the=20=
introduction=20that=20parents=20
=20>>=20of
=20>>=20blind=20children=20are=20welcome=20to=20reply=20to=20the=20applica=
ble=20items=20only=20and=20
=20>>=20provide
=20>>=20any=20info=20on=20topics=20we=20haven't=20covered=20regarding=20th=
e=20needs=20of=20their=20child.=20
=20>>=20Is
=20>>=20that=20OK=20or=20should=20we=20add=20items=20specifically=20for=20=
kids,=20or=20should=20we=20
=20>>=20rewrite
=20>>=20the=20existing=20items?
=20>>
=20>>=20Thanks=20for=20any=20feedback!
=20>>
=20>>=20Fran
=20>>
=20>>
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