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I need help. I have a new email address, though I am sending from my old email
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On Feb 13, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:to view the list archives, go to:
The problem is that I think these philosophies were generated mostly by
sighted educators. There is no way that speech could provide the
direction and concept that the Optacon does. I think the same is true
about Braille. Braille literacy had to be fought for, because sighted
educators figured why learn that? There is all of this technology...
Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:42 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
Well, I think this is really a generational thing. The young adults of
today more than likely never used one, could experience the freedom it
can
give, the independence they can have, and frankly don't care. I really
fault the marketers and professionals who dropped it when scanners came
on
the scene. I think that everyone naievely believed that the scanner and
OCR
was the total answer to the print issue. And with the burgeoning speech
technology at the time, people thought how wonderful to have a mechanical
"reader," no matter how imperfect the voice, the OCR, etc.
Again these opinions are generalizations, but I believe are probably
true.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 5:32 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
Hi,
I am not a fast Optacon reader, but that is not important to me. I use
the
Optacon for so many things like reading my mail, and I know right to look
for the important material as well. I wonder why the NFB does not push
for
the Optican to come back, because they fight so many other issues. It
seems
like important people in the NFB would have used the Optacon to do
important
tasks. Have a great one, all.
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 2:13 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
Yep, that's the way to go.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:39 AM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
L-shaped desk, best way to go for sure. Here in the U.S., we call those
paper things shredders.
I am going to have my land line transferred to a cell phone, and Verizon
said to bring my telephone company account number. So, I went into my
files, pulled out last month's statement, found number with good old
Optacon, folded it out, put it in my purse. When I go to the phone store,
I'll have the genuine article right at the ready.
Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jyrki Voutilainen
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:14 AM
To: Optacon User List <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optacon-l] Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
Hi,
I have a desktop that is formed like the letter "L". On the right side of
that "letter" is all my data equipment, and things like the Optacon, a
Perkins Brailler etc. are on the left one. Yesterday afternoon I sat down
in front of that side and started to check three unopened printed letters
archiving two and putting one in the paper destroyer, which is an
electric
one that can be bought from many shops that sell office products. Perhaps
there is a better word than "paper destroyer" for this device, but
anyway.
And yes, I've written about the same thing even before (smile).
One thing that satisfied me once again was that even though I am not a
fast Optacon reader at all I was able to get access to the main contents
of these official documents in order to decide what was worth archiving
and what wasn't without performing scanning on any of these letters.
Being
familiar with the standard layout of such documents I knew where to look
for the most relevant information without reading the entire stuff.
Fortunately, most of the authorities follow that standard. As far as I
know, these standards are, or have been, national. They have made it
possible to post letters in windowed envelopes instead of using address
labels. When posting domestic letters I use the same method even when
returning a filled form. I just put the address page on the form page and
put the pages into the envelope, and the recipient's address is always in
the middle of the window. Without a standard page layout that wouldn't be
possible without a lot of adjustment and testing, so thanks to the
standard layout (smile).
--
Jyrki
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