Thanks, Dale. All of those re-sends worked great. The problems KSNG had are exactly the same as the VHF stations up and down the East Coast, and from the account, it happened just as I had suspected. They relied 100 percent on the results of *a* propagation model used at the FCC, and they failed to do the all-important "smell test." Which is to say, step back, look at the answer, and see if it's credible. You know, what your mom taught you to do back in grade school arithmetic. Because in this case too, the drop in power compared with analog was more than even A/54 recommends, 14.3 dB. "Now that more than 950 stations have shut off their analog signal, the DTV transition is revealing a number of real-world limitations that the industry didn't foresee ..." Just as the above quote is frustrating, there is the other side of the coin. One I know was using a two-bay Antenna Direct DB2 UHF antenna, the smallest one of that series, indoors, 24+ miles from the Ch 7 and Ch 9 tower in DC, and had previously been receiving a snowy analog picture on analog Ch 7 and 9. Surprise surprise, she lost reception when those stations went back to VHF. Aaargh. By the way, take a look at this new baby: http://www.antennasdirect.com/C5-Clearstream-DTV-antenna.html Obviously, Antenna Direct is responding to the cries of pain. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.