Looks like IMB is to 3G as MBMS was to 2.5G. Why IMB would be successful when MBMS was not, I wouldn't know. But perhaps "success" has to be redefined. If the cellcos do that, mobile broadcast TV might succeed, as long as the air interface is designed to not get in the way of the two-way traffic. Perhaps this is the key: "There have been so many false dawns for mobile TV around the world that it is often treated as a failed idea, but where a viable free-to-air system, with good content, has been launched, it has been a huge success for consumers (as in Japan and Korea), even if it has not delivered huge revenues to anyone in the ecosystem." You know, sort of like HDTV. Maybe the cellcos prefer these MBMS or IMB approaches because it gives them control of the TV channels. Where direct reception of the broadcasters' signals would not. Or maybe they like the fact that they can keep tabs of how much each subscriber is watching with these techniques. The direct approach would save the cellcos that $10,000 per every three base stations, which seems like it could easily add up to something significant? Bert ----------------------------------------- http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/06/24/uk-cellcos-team-mobile-tv-trial.htm UK cellcos team for mobile TV trial Using IMB standard to broadcast content in underused TDD 3G spectrum By CAROLINE GABRIEL Published: 24 June, 2010 Mobile television has not been the 'killer app' some cellcos hoped for, but they continue to look for the best technology to offer broadcast to handsets, a trend that should be stimulated by the rise of video optimized smartphones with HD video and wide screens, like the Motorola Droid X and Samsung Galaxy S. The three main UK mobile operators, O2, Orange and Vodafone, have teamed up to test a mobile TV service based on the IMB (integrated mobile broadcast) standard, pioneered by IPWireless. The IMB system allows broadcasts to be made over existing 3G spectrum, using the TDD frequencies that most European operators own, but have left fallow. The three carriers are working with IPWireless, Ericsson (the other main IMB proponent), and Streamezzo on a three-month trial in west London and the nearby town of Slough. IMB is an updated standard for multicasting on cellular TDD signals, an approach that was previously addressed by the failed MBMS standard. UK cellcos have always been in the vanguard of running TV services in 3G bands, and carried out the first meaningful trials of MBMS too. There have been so many false dawns for mobile TV around the world that it is often treated as a failed idea, but where a viable free-to-air system, with good content, has been launched, it has been a huge success for consumers (as in Japan and Korea), even if it has not delivered huge revenues to anyone in the ecosystem. And even today streaming TV services are often held back by cellular operators, afraid that they will saturate their networks with people using phones as portable TV viewers. This is why IMB may be the answer - not requiring separate spectrum or technology like the DVB-H broadcast standard, but harnessing underused spectrum, already supported within 3G licenses for one-way or unpaired data delivery. The industry now claims all the kinks have been knocked out of the system so that the TDD signals will not interfere with existing cellular FDD signals. The UK train will use the combined TDD spectrum (5MHz each) of O2, Vodafone and the Orange/T-Mobile combination. With up to 20MHz of spectrum, they could deliver between 60 and 80 broadcast TV channels, making it the most comprehensive mobile TV system in the world. IP Wireless will provide the TDD transmitters for the trial, Ericsson will be the integrator, and French streaming specialist Streamezzo will manage the handset user experience. The cost issues are fairly simple - a $10,000 transmitter needs to be added to one in every three base stations, and chips which pick up TDD signals, which also offer signal diversity, need to be added to handsets. IPWireless had been doing this in the form of a single $20 chipset, which has proved a price barrier to mass adoption by phonemakers. However, IPWireless told Rethink's Faultline: "Handsets will initially require a separate IMB chipset, but we expect handsets featuring a single integrated chipset to be commercially available in the future." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.