Cable in San Diego had not a cent of government investment, and the Las Vegas situation is rather unique, and I suspect not unconnected to the "dem and dose" nature of investing in Las Vegas at the time. One must keep in mind that until recently, the telephone company in Las Vegas was one of the two mob-controlled U.S. telephone companies. Sure helped with the bookmaking operations in Kansas City. Development fees aren't government funding - it's private, but in some cases mandated by government. There might have been some Minnesota government in USSB, and Intelsat (who did the initial application) is an international government-controlled entity, but aside from that the only government money in DBS start ups was the money the FCC spent on processing the applications. John Willkie _____ From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:37 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Spectrum Utility There has been discussion for some time on how a utility might be developed to provide digital media over a broad spectrum using the TV spectrum. Recently there has been discussion with arguments on how it would be paid for, even suggesting this would be a socialist undertaking. But didn't the cable companies get started with government money? If I remember right, the cable system installed in Las Vegas was paid for by tax payers to get it initially installed. Then, Prime Cable (at the time) ran it and paid Clark County a franchise fee. Now that the cable system is well established, it is run privately (and pretty much a monopoly, I might add). But I believe additions to the system are still funded by development fees and not direct corporate outlays. Did all the funding to start DBS come from private investments? For some reason I thought there was government help there, too. But perhaps I am mistaken. Dan