My argument with what Bill said is that I don't (personally) believe that OCAP, exclusively, is a good idea. I think it's going too far to say that any CE companies affirmatively agree that OCAP exclusively is a good idea -- but that's not to say that some CE companies haven't agreed to make OCAP products. If Bill's vision is realized, than my stated fear (only competition among vertical service offerings, no competition horizontally between CE companies making receivers) is realized. If OCAP is the only way to operate a cable, satellite and telco receiver, than all receivers are innovation-handicapped and handcuffed to the business interest of the operator (rather than the consumer or the CE manufacturer). > From what's in the article, this Sony agreement with all the cable companies > should not preclude Sony from also going after its own Internet/home-recording > EPG ideas, now or in the future. As far as I can tell. Unable to comment. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Albert Manfredi Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:38 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Sony, six cable companies adopt two-way CableCARD tech Adam Goldberg wrote: > The DCR+ proponents argue that it should be possible to > build a TV which does the above, and it should be possible > to build an OCAP TV and it should be possible to build a > TV which does both (depending on what the consumer > wants). If the cable operators, via OCAP, are able to > provide a compelling experience, consumers will buy > OCAP TVs or rent OCAP STBs. > Which is better for consumers? Competition between > content access environment, with the free market driving > the experience better and better ... or a cable-controlled, > content-segmented, completely undifferentiated experience? Adam, I gather you are objecting to the details of what is DCR+ vs. OCAP, not to the notion of CE vendors and cable companies agreeing with one another in a unified way, right? I think Bill's point was that the pursuit of DCR+ was doing nothing to get a unified cable agreement in place with CE companies. Whereas as soon as Sony got behind OCAP, that hurdle could be breached. An agreement with all cable companies would be a prerequisite to the consumer nirvana you propose, no? From what's in the article, this Sony agreement with all the cable companies should not preclude Sony from also going after its own Internet/home-recording EPG ideas, now or in the future. As far as I can tell. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.