If the R-S code doesn't have to locate byte errors, twice as many byte errors per R-S codeword can be corrected using an alternative decoding algorithm. The rumor is that work is being done on using soft trellis decoding for locating byte errors. I believe this practice is mentioned in the revised ATSC document A/54. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "OpenDTV (E-mail)" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: [opendtv] Koetter-Vardy RS decoder (Mark's memo) > > - There's a interesting report on improved "coding > > gain" by using the Koetter-Vardy algorithm for > > error correction. > > This is really exciting stuff. Koetter-Vardy is a > soft decoding algorithm for Reed Solomon. It provides > answers with associated probablity of being correct, > rather than a single take-it-or-leave-it result. It > can be used with any RS-encoded data. And it can be > implemented in hardware, for real-time decoding. > > I've been wondering why this same sort of soft > decoding can't also be done with convolutional > encoding schemes, like trellis codes. > > This is the sort of breakthrough that demonstrates > that the 14.9 or 15.1 dB C/N margin threshold for > DTT is *not* a hard limit. The hard limit is 10.47 > dB (at 19.39 Mb/s in 5.38 MHz channels). Anything > higher than that is "negotiable," as it were. > > Sounds like using Koetter-Vardy alone in a > compatible receiver should already be good for > about 13 dB of min C/N margin in Gaussian fading. > And better than that in Rayleigh channels. > > Bert > > > --------------------------------- > http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=3D1906 > > Breakthrough in Coding Theory and Practice > > The Board of Governors of the IEEE Information Theory > Society has selected an article by professors from the > University of California, San Diego (UCSD) and the > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) as > the top publication in information theory during the > past two years. The article developed an improved > decoding algorithm for error-correcting codes that are > used today in communication and storage devices > ranging from computer hard drives to deep-space probes. > > UIUC's Ralf Koetter and UCSD's Alexander Vardy received > the award for their work on "Algebraic Soft-Decision > Decoding of Reed-Solomon Codes," published in the > November 2003 issue of IEEE Transactions on Information > Theory (vol. 49, no. 11, pp. 2809-2825). The article > described the first truly efficient and effective > soft-decision decoding algorithm for Reed-Solomon codes, > thereby solving a long-standing open problem in coding > theory and practice. > > "Decoding is always a matter of probability," Vardy said. > "There had been a mismatch between the probabilistic > domain of the channel and the algebraic domain of the > decoder. In a sense, what we had to do was to achieve a > happy marriage of probability and algebra." > > "This paper is a dramatic advance in error-correction > capability for both information storage and communication > systems," said Paul Siegel, director of UCSD's Center for > Magnetic Recording Research. "On the practical end, the > running time of the algorithm is highly reasonable. As a > consequence, Professor Vardy and his colleague opened the > way for us to achieve a radical improvement in the > performance of Reed-Solomon codes." > > Although they pre-date turbo codes and other recent codes, > Reed-Solomon codes remain in widespread use. About 75% of > error-correction circuits in operation today decode > Reed-Solomon codes. For example, every CD player and most > computer hard drives use these codes. The cited paper > adapted a new decoding technique, developed by Venkatesan > Guruswami and Madhu Sudan at MIT, and used it to design a > soft-decision decoding algorithm, i.e., an algorithm that > fully utilizes the probabilistic information available at > the receiver. The Koetter-Vardy soft-decision decoding > algorithm results in substantial coding gains in practice > [up to 1.5 decibels on additive white Gaussian noise > channels, and much more on Rayleigh-fading channels]. Due > to these gains and feasible complexity, the new algorithm > has the potential to make today's standard decoding > algorithms obsolete. > > The Koetter-Vardy algorithm has already passed one > practical test with flying colors. Ham radio operators > used it to decode 'moonbounce' messages bounced off the > Moon and back to Earth using low-power amplifiers and > receivers. "This is where I started being so favorably > impressed," said Princeton's Joe Taylor, a ham radio > operator and a Nobel Laureate. "The KV algorithm is fully > 2 dB better than what I have been using, and the > advantage holds up over a wide range of signal-to-noise > ratios. The use of the KV Reed-Solomon decoder in my > moonbounce program has been a spectacular success. Many > dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Earth-Moon-Earth contacts > are being made with it every day now, all over the > world." > > Vardy says that the article cited by the Information > Theory Society opened up many more avenues of research in > his lab and elsewhere. "Several groups in both academia > and industry are now working in this area, including > people at Caltech, MIT, University of Toronto, University > of Minnesota and, of course, UIUC and UCSD," said Vardy. > "We have presented several recent papers at conferences > and are preparing at least three or four of them for > journal submission." > > Prof. Vardy holds a joint appointment in two Jacobs School > departments: Computer Science and Engineering, as well as > Electrical and Computer Engineering. The Russian-born > scientist received his Ph.D. from Tel-Aviv University in > 1991. After two years at the IBM Almaden Research Center, > he taught at the University of Illinois (UIUC) before > joining the Jacobs School faculty in 1999. His work in > coding theory has already been recognized by numerous > awards, including the Xerox Award for faculty research, > the Packard Foundation Fellowship, and the NSF Career > Award. He is an Editor for the SIAM Journal on Discrete > Mathematics. From 1995 until 2001, he served as an > Associate Editor for Coding Theory and then as the > Editor-in-Chief of the IEEE Transactions on Information > Theory. He is affiliated with three UCSD research > centers: CMRR, the Center for Wireless Communications > (CWC), and the California Institute for > Telecommunications and Information Technology. > > Source: UCSD Jacobs > > This news is brought to you by PhysOrg.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.