A few years ago, the Internet Explorer browser was the issue. Now it's the media player. I wonder why folks focus on these individual apps, when there are so many others they could just as easily name. Zip utilities, disc utilties, e-mail client, text editor, IP protocol stack, and on and on, all stuff added to Windows. The only reversal of that trend was when QBasic was deleted from the OS distribution CD-ROM, with WinXP, and nothing was bundled in there to take its place. Bert -------------------------------------- EU penalties against Microsoft upheld By EE Times December 22, 2004 (7:49 AM EST) URL: http://www.eet.com/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=3D56200008 WASHINGTON - Microsoft Corp. has lost its appeal of an European Union ruling that it violated European antitrust laws. The decision by the EU Court of First Instance in Luxembourg on Wednesday (Dec. 22) means Microsoft must sell a European version of Windows without the Windows Media Player. Until a final appeal in the antitrust case is heard in the next two years, the software giant will also be required to disclose parts of its Windows source code. Microsoft's appeal stems from a March ruling by the EU's Competition Committee that imposed sanctions and a large fine for violating European antitrust laws. Microsoft was seeking a preliminary injunction that would have delayed the ruling taking effect while its appeal was being heard. "Microsoft has not demonstrated specifically that it might suffer serious and irreparable damage," Court of First Instance President Bo Vesterdorf said. Nicholas Economides, an economics professor at New York University who specializes in antitrust law, said the Luxembourg court's ruling upholding penalties imposed by the EU means Microsoft will have to produce a stripped-down version of Windows in Europe and pay the largest fine in EU history - $665.4 million. However, the ruling by the second highest EU court can still be appealed to the European Court of Justice. Copyright 2003 CMP Media ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.