The only way that CALEA will be kept off the Internet is if Voynage reverses course, AND there is no VOIP. Thinking otherwise (during wartime, when CALEA is an important 'asset') is worse than tilting at windmills. The same for keeping the FCC out of DVRs. What was the last major or minor battle that EFF won? Some minor word changes in a minor piece of legislation? John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Monty Solomon Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:02 PM To: undisclosed-recipient: Subject: [opendtv] EFFector 17.37: Help Keep CALEA Off the Net EFFector Vol. 17, No. 37 October 7, 2004 donna@xxxxxxx A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 In the 309th Issue of EFFector: * Calling All Broadband Providers and VoIP Experts - Help Keep CALEA off the Internet! * BayFF Event - "E-voting and the Upcoming Election" * Court to Rehear Email Privacy Case * Help EFF Fight for the Freedom to Innovate - Give to the BnetD Defense Fund! * FCC out of Our Digital Television Recorders! * WIPO to Support Public Domain, Open Source * Join EFF for "Resisting Government Secrecy in a Time of Terrorism," October 8-9 * MiniLinks (9): Kodak Knocks Sun's Lights Out * Administrivia ... http://www.eff.org/effector/17/37.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.