http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4416718/Hollywood--Silicon-Valley-argue-over-digital-media Hollywood, Silicon Valley quarrel over digital media Rick Merritt 6/19/2013 9:06 AM EDT Old arguments simmered and sometimes erupted in the latest meeting of this odd married couple with its long, unsettled spats over copy protection and formats. PALO ALTO, Calif. - Like an old married couple, Hollywood and Silicon Valley keep fighting the same old arguments. The latest spat erupted at the first meeting of the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers held on the Stanford campus here. Hollywood claims Silicon Valley doesn't do enough to protect its content. The Valley counters Hollywood doesn't put out its video in ways attractive enough for the digital age. Meanwhile the next big format war is brewing. And the Valley is still enamored as ever with each new sexy codec that comes along. On the codec front, a Google engineering manager said the search giant locked down the code stream and held an industry summit two weeks ago for its VP9 codec. It showed the royalty-free codec it evolved from VP8 that Google acquired with On2 Technologies delivering streams while using roughly half the CPU horsepower of today's H.264. The free, fast codec will be much more attractive than the competing H.265 (aka HEVC), said Google's Jan Skoglund, claiming H.265 will carry even high royalties than its predecessor. Industry giants are still debating terms for H.265 at the MPEG LA. Expect more shoes to fall in this debate over the next year as debate heats up and crystallizes over patent terms for both codecs. Chip makers, many of whom attended the VP9 summit, are likely to carve support for both options into silicon. Meanwhile Google engineers are already turning their attention to a VP10 generation, said Skoglund. The format wars, 2013 edition As techies debate the next hot media technology, a new format war is brewing. TV makers came to CES last January trumpeting UltraHD, The quad-resolution high def picture was their hope to re-ignite interest in giant flat panels after stereo 3-D failed to ignite the market. Hollywood wants something different. Rushing to more pixels is an easy but unsatisfying answer, said one studio exec who asked to be unnamed. Instead, content owners are shopping ideas such as expanding the color gamut which is still locked in the olden days of what could be shown on a CRT. Today's LCDs can show a much wider set of colors and consumers will notice the difference. By contrast they will need huge screens to detect the difference more pixels bring with UltraHD, the exec said. In addition, Hollywood has made proposals for extending the dynamic color range and contrast in the next big format. Concepts for more immersive audio and faster frame rates also are under discussion. The big questions are whether the two sides can agree on all the new nuances and find a way to boil them down to a simple concept or number to sell to consumers. "Lots of bilateral discussions are going on now [about the next format, and] forums will probably pop up in the future to try to resolve some of this stuff," the exec said. Sounds like Blu-ray vs. HD DVD and VHS vs. Betamax all over again. But this time the format is not focused on a cartridge or shiny disk. These days it's all digital, networked delivery-and that's the other and biggest old on-going argument. Seeing the light of Ultraviolet The old debate over copy protection, started in the late 1990's Napster era, still grinds on as the most bitter of all the arguments. But there are a few glimmers of progress. Hollywood has been crafting for several years a carrot to attract consumers to pay for digital video online. Called Ultraviolet, it sports a fully defined program with dozens of backers, but so far adoption has been slow. Twelve million people have Ultraviolet accounts across about four countries where it is offered. Seven studios and three other content owners have put out more than 9,700 titles in the UV format so far, supporting all major operating systems. But devices natively supporting UV have yet to hit the market in a big way, and marketing for the effort has been nearly non-existent. Some note UV has failed to go viral, and has been passed by in favor of other Web offerings. "I'm not impatient because the platform we are building will last for a long time," said Mitch Singer, CTO of Sony Pictures Entertainment and one of the fathers of Ultraviolet. "The vision is probably right," Singer added. "I don't look at progress quarterly, but on a much longer time perspective this--it doesn't have to go viral," he said. Industry veterans say Ultraviolet has gained broader industry backing than any copyright protection effort to date. If it does not succeed in its current form, it will evolve into something that will, they say. And then the fur flies Meanwhile content owners say chip makers need to do more to support hardware root of trust in silicon. They are also smarting from the failure of the controversial SOPA/PIPA legislation that promised heightened enforcement tools for shutting down international pirates such as Pirate Bay. "Copyright works great with the only exception of our complete lack of enforcement of it," said Singer of Sony Pictures Entertainment in a panel on the hot-button topic. By the end of the evening fur started to fly as panelists elbowed each other in all the old wounded places. "The idea that you have to change your business model because people are stealing your music rubs me the wrong way," said Singer. "I'd like the dialog to be about what we can do to help manage online theft," he said. "No one is condoning theft, said Fred von Lohmann a long time representative of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, now the legal director of copyright at Google. "We've invested a lot to help you--I could go through a list of the things we have done for free to help you," he said. "Google supported half of SOPA [and] we are doing more on the ad side today than the proposed law would have required, so there's progress there" von Lohmann added. But "site blocking and search censorship are currently not part of the discussion," he said. Von Lohmann noted YouTube and other Web giants are seeking premium content creators without ties to theaters and cable TV, willing to put out movies and shows direct to consumers. Singer countered that a high publicized five-movie deal between entrepreneur Mark Cuban and director Stephen Soderbergh fizzled after the first direct-to-consumer flick called "Bubbles" flopped. Meanwhile studios are still trying to wield a big stick against pirates. One panelist mentioned reports of a "secret room" at NBC Universal where network techs track illegal downloads and send out tens of thousands of cease-and-desist notices every hour. Campaigns to sue individuals largely ended around 2008. But von Lohmann noted a few highly publicized judgments for millions of dollars threatened to create "a chilling effect on innovators" and a "nuclear winter" in digital media. "I've heard before the argument that copyright stifles innovation, yet we're the most innovative country in the world," countered Singer of Sony. "The idea we need to move to this permissive innovative state is complete nonsense," he said. "It's unfortunate I have as many lawyers as engineers," said Eric Klinker, CEO of BitTorrent. "Perhaps it's the natural state in copyright that no one is happy," he said. An administrator from the University of Southern California-one of many colleges that has been embroiled in copyright infringement litigation over its students' behavior-talked about changing cultural norms. Student's downloading free movies "do not think they are doing anything wrong," he said. "They believe Hollywood makes a lot of money so they are not hurting anyone," he said. "What college kid thinks it's legal when they are downloading in their dorm the move that's playing at the theater?" countered Singer. "They need to see big brother is watching," he said, alluding to efforts to enlist ISPs to send out more warnings. Stephen Balogh, a tech policy specialist at Intel and head of several copyright protection initiatives, defended Silicon Valley's work on efforts to block piracy. "You can't create impenetrable technologies, but you try to make it more costly to circumvent them than to get media legitimately," Balogh said. "These [content protection] technologies aren't perfect, but we've done this for years, we're still doing it and hopefully we've done a better job with Ultraviolet," he said. At best the technical approaches "keep lazy people honest," quipped Singer, suggesting the old arguments in the marriage of Hollywood and Silicon Valley will continue. "If we could get agreement on legislation like SIPA/POPA, that would be great, but for now we're going down the path of working as partners with Silicon Valley and that seems to be a better approach," he said, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.