I'd say it is borderline. I'm not sure if the serial protocol for querying and tuning the XMPCR is *officially* available from XM under public domain. If not, then that could fall under DMCA, no matter how simple it is to reverse-engineer. The DMCA case where Chamberlain (sp? - maker or garage door openers and remotes) sued a remote-replacement company just proves that (they didn't touch their 'encryption' per se, they just used a back-door (send a reset command and the garage door opens)). I don't think XM's intention was to provide a device that could save all their tracks and then let the user put those on KaZaa or whatever. Also, imagine where you run that recorder on your favorite genre station for a month or two, 24/7. You're likely to get every track they have, and then just discontinue service (no reason to listen to their tracks when you have them on an MP3 player). Cheers Kon John Golitsis wrote: > Is this illegal?? I thought recording off the 'radio' was permitted? You > still > have to subscribe to XM, so you're not breaking encryption. Is this still a > violation of the DMCA? > > Similarly, there are DAB PC boards available here that clearly advertise the > ability to create MP3 files. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Monty Solomon" <monty@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>Last week, I received another jolt. This time, the shock of realizing >>amazing promise came when I checked out a new piece of software >>called TimeTrax. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.