Kilroy Hughes wrote: > Nobody agrees on what "copy once" or the other two states > mean when you put it to the test. Not sure I understand why this should be difficult, in this specific broadcast case. Even if it can get difficult in the broader context (clearly it can). The copy prevention should only apply to content in a pre-recorded medium, e.g. to prevent copying between DVD and DVDR, pre-recorded VHS and DVDR, etc. But when content is broadcast, it must not apply. That should be simple. If the broadcast flag is set, the content cannot be indiscriminately retransmitted across the Internet, but it must still be allowed to be copied for personal use. I'm also not sure I understand why CE vendors that don't honor these rules don't get fined. In coding for IP communications, there is a dictum which I think applies here too. "Be conservative in what you transmit, be liberal in what you receive." In this case, that would be translated to "Don't set a copy never CGMS code when broadcasting, ignore a copy never CGMS code when recording broadcast content." That is the intent of the FCC ruling and of the US Court of Appeals, it seems to me. An OTA or cable receiver, or a recorder with built-in RF receiver, should have no problem implementing a compliant design. What comes in that RF pipe cannot be sent out with a copy never CGMS code. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.