The Oregon Breeding Bird Atlas indicates Blue Grouse in both the Winter Rim and Warner Mtns (yet further east) of Lake County. I would be surprised by the species' absence in either place. Birds of Oregon lists three subspecies before the split, two belonging to what now is Sooty Grouse. I imagine the subspecies in Lake County would be sierrae. This location would be worthy of scrutiny. I have always thought of this as a bird of the vast conifer forests, but someone posted a link here to a Washington State fish and game article. In that state Dusky Grouse is an habitué of shrub-steppe adjacent to conifers. The distance between the Blue/Ochocco system and Winter Rim isn't that great and ten thousand years ago the forest between the two was probably continuous. Lars OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx