Dave, thank you for replying. Your explanation along with the BirdFellow images went along way to help me develop a better understanding of the differences between the Red and Sooty subspecies. I'd be very happy to contribute my photos to your gallery. I'll send you a download link in another email. Thanks again. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM, David Irons <llsdirons@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Jack, > > The bird in the bottom two images is clearly has many of the > characteristics of a Red Fox Sparrow. Those include a somewhat streaked > rather than unstreaked mantle (back); pale tips to the median and greater > coverts, which creates very weak wingbars, something that I've never seen > in a seemingly pure Sooty Fox Sparrow; a reddish "C" shaped crescent that > to some degree frames the auriculars (cheek area) and contrasts noticeably > with a mostly gray face. Also, it has a bright russet tail and rich reddish > wings (note that many Sooties, particularly the birds that winter away from > the outer coast, are quite reddish in the wings and tail–see last paragraph > below). > > I've been involved in a number of recent online discussions about birds > that resemble yours. I am of the opinion that these birds are more likely > Sooty X Red intergrades rather than "pure" members of one of the subspecies > assigned to the Red Group (*P. i. iliaca* and *P. i. zaboria*). While > James Rising states in his sparrow book that the eastern *iliaca* and > western *zaboria* cannot be reliably separated, I've had Alvaro Jaramillo > tell me that he thought a bird that looks like yours was *P. i. zaboria.* > > In preparing the BirdFellow ID photo gallery for Fox Sparrow (link below) > I selected from Red Fox Sparrow images taken from Michigan, Manitoba, and > Alaska. Presumably, the more easterly birds are *iliaca* and the Alaska > birds are *zaboria. *Frankly, I can't see much difference in their > appearance, thus I'm inclined to side with Rising. Bright and contrasty as > it is, your bird is still not as bright and contrasty as a classic Red Fox > Sparrow. > > http://www.birdfellow.com/birds/fox-sparrow-passerella-iliaca#/idPhotos > > *Here's what I see that leads me to believe that your bird is an > intergrade: * > > One of the first things that I notice is the dusky wash on the lower > flanks. When I look at presumed pure Red Fox Sparrows the base color of the > flanks is white or off-whte with fairly crisp dark streaks with white > showing through in between. They don't show any blurry dusky wash on the > flanks and the streaking is not blurred out as it is just above legs on > your bird. The second thing that I looked at was the contrast in the back > streaking. Red Fox Sparrows typically show fairly strong contrast between > colder medium-gray and dark reddish brown on the back, thus they look very > streaky on the mantle. Your bird is streaked on the back, but the contrast > between the warmer olive-grays and dull reddish brown is not nearly as > obvious and the back seems more con-color at a quick glance. > > One of the real keys is the head and face pattern. I see some things about > the head and face pattern that don't fit a pure Red Fox Sparrow. First, the > crown is rusty brown and doesn't seem to have much, if an gray feathering. > Red Fox Sparrows have mostly gray crowns. Secondly, Red Fox Sparrows > normally have a big patch or crescent of red in the auriculars, bordered > below by fairly obvious wedge or triangle of white (may have some red > mottling within) with the triangular reddish brown malar mark below that. > Your bird has a suggestion of the white wedge, but it seems less obvious > than it is on most of the Reds in the BirdFellow gallery. Your bird also > shows less red in the auriculars than the birds in the BirdFellow gallery. > There is essentially no red right under the eye, which all of the Reds in > the BirdFellow gallery show. Images #6 and #11 in the BirdFellow ID gallery > offer the best examples of the white wedge and this field mark seems to be > more obvious in eastern birds and less apparent in the birds photographed > on Alaskan breeding grounds (#4 and #5). The Birds of North America (BNA) > Online account suggests that westerly Reds (presumably *zaboria*) are > more gray on the head and nape, which seems to be accurate if you compare > the Alaska and Manitoba birds in the BirdFellow gallery (link above). > > It is always important to consider age-related or seasonal (after hatch > year) variations, as that could account for a winter bird appearing to be > duller than adults on the breeding grounds. According to the BNA Online > account, formative plumage (first winter) and basic plumage (after > second-year in winter) plumages are indistinguishable except for molt > limits in the flight and tail feathers. I don't see any obvious molt limits > in your bird. Mike Patterson or Dennis Vroman (who are banders) might see > something that allows them to more positively age this bird, but I don't > see anything that leads me to believe that it's a hatch-year bird. Also, > the BNA Online account states that there are no obvious differences between > the basic and alternate plumages in Fox Sparrows. > > Another thing to point out about your bird is the streaking and spotting > on the underparts. I think that your bird is more heavily streaked and > spotted below than a typical Red Fox Sparrow. If you look at the photos of > Reds in the BirdFellow gallery you might notice that the spotting/streaking > fades out on the lower breast/upper belly with much of the belly being > white and unmarked. On your bird, the streaking/spotting extends way down > the underparts, with only the extreme lower belly and vent area being > unmarked. > > In looking at a bunch of images I noticed one other thing. Sooty Fox > Sparrows often show quite a bit of red in the wings and tail and are highly > variable in this regard (I co-authored a photo essay on this topic that > appeared in the March 2012 issue of *Birding* -- Vol 44:2). However, in > looking at the wings and coverts of Sooties, I noticed that the median > coverts are typically a bit duller and sometimes less reddish or more > earthy brown than the greater coverts and secondaries. Conversely, the > median coverts, greater coverts and folded flight feathers/secondary edges > look similarly reddish in all the BirdFellow photos of Reds. Your bird has > noticeably duller, less reddish median coverts. > > Finally, thanks for sharing the photos of this very dapper bird. Fox > Sparrows continue to offer of one of the best case studies when it comes to > speciation. The murky line between species and subspecies becomes really > blurry when you start studying Fox Sparrows. Thankfully, they are very > attractive birds and generally cooperative if you like to photograph them > (I certainly do). With your permission, I would love to add these two shots > to the BirdFellow ID gallery for Fox Sparrow, as they are very instructive. > > Dave Irons > Portland, OR > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 18:19:42 -0800 > Subject: [obol] Sooty or Red Fox Sparrow > From: jack.williamson.jr@xxxxxxxxx > To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > As a result of twice receiving comments on photos I've posted of Fox > Sparrows over the past year, I am now well conditioned to regularly look > more closely at this species than I used to. I just wish I could the same > thing about Gyrfalcon :-) Nevertheless - we had a Fox Sparrow show up this > afternoon that clearly contrasts to the one we regularly enjoy watching in > our backyard. > > Thank you in advance for any thought you might have on this topic. > > http://www.jack-n-jill.net/blog/2013/12/sooty-or-red-fox-sparrow > > -- > Jack Williamson > West Linn, Oregon > -- Jack Williamson West Linn, Oregon