Same bird? Almost assuredly not. Although Rusty Blackbirds are not detected that often in w. Oregon, they are not so few that we should presume the disappearance of one and appearance of another 50+ miles away the next day are related events. Multiple Rusty Blackbirds are found in Washington state every year. Here in Oregon, scant few birders pay attention much attention to blackbird flocks. A few years ago, after I found one of several Rusty Blackbirds that I've found in Oregon, another birder sent me a private message asking what I was doing that caused me to stop and look at a flock of blackbirds n. of Eugene. His query was something like: "Were you scouting for the CBC or counting the Eurasian Collared-Doves at the feedlot?" He was rather surprised to learn that, no, I found that Rusty Blackbird because I had stopped to specifically look for Rusty Blackbirds. If you hope to see a Rusty in Oregon half of the battle is knowing when (October/November is the prime season) and where (feedlots and manure piles with lots of other blackbirds have yielded most of my Rusties) to look and then making a point of doing so. As these recent sightings indicate, Rusties aren't restricted to barnyards and livestock operations, but I've had my best 'luck' at such places. Any mixed blackbird flock will do. That said, I've never found a Rusty with only Red-wingeds or Brewer's and they seem more likely to end up in the big flocks. Dave IronsPortland, OR From: watice@xxxxxxx To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [obol] Rusty Blackbird and MSP Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:39:28 +0000 Hi Folks, I met with Brandon Wagner around noon at Monmoth Sewage Ponds and refound the Rusty Blackbird. It is a female, and not difficult to differentiate from any Brewar's Blackbird, of which there were none present anyway. There were 2 adult male Red-winged Blackbirds and plenty of starlings there, and it does not seem to associate with either. As birders have had a good relationship with the staff of MSP, we were able to negotiate weekend birding there. So for those of you who would like to chase this bird, the staff is leaving one of the gates (I think the one straight ahead as you drive into the area: the other is between the cable/satellite building and the public works building - both off to the right) unlocked, but there is to be a chain allowing it to be opened enough for birders to get through. Please close it after going in or out. The bird was seen at the first lagoon, on all four sides of this lagoon, either at the water's edges or in the brush or trees or marsh (west side). We heard that the Forest Grove bird was not found today, so are wondering if this is the same one? Brandon has good pics, so may weigh in on it. Good luck. Bill Tice: Birding - The best excuse for getting outdoors, and avoiding chores.