Might want to watch this video of 2 juvenile white-tailed eagles in flight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXgXxAiKLqo
Linda Fink, not giving up hope yet
On 12/22/2021 1:32 AM, Robert O'Brien wrote:
Just heard from Tim Janzen who reminded me that Lars said the tail had no white. I was just going by the photo, and if so, I guess that would eliminate White-tailed Eagle which has white in the tail, even as a juvenile. (Bald Eagles don't). This would depend upon the view of course, but a spread-tail flight view would settle it. Below are 2 WT Eagles perched in which the white is not very visible. Juvenile Golden Eagles usually have significant white in the tails/wings so I guess it might have to be an unusual Bald Eagle juvenile?
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As to the 'eye ring', it's not clear whether the eye is all dark with an eye-ring, or whether the white is the outer portions of the eye itself. But here is a Bald Eagle that shows a similar 'eye-ring' The bill is all dark and appears much larger than Lars' eagle.
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 12:46 AM Robert O'Brien <baro@xxxxxxx <mailto:baro@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
A further reflection and good night.
I'm _guessing_ that the white feet/legs as well as possible the
white 'lores' are due to wading around in putrified, spawned-out
salmon carcasses along this eagle's presumed long trip through
perhaps the Aleutians and then SE Alaska. Just a thought.
Bob Obrien Carver OR
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:40 PM Robert O'Brien <baro@xxxxxxx
<mailto:baro@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Lars' Incredible Eagle.
Lars richly deserves this after his many, many years devoted to
Oregon Birding.
He observed what most (especially including me) would pass off
as 'just another' Bald Eagle, in its normal shoreline habitat,
at a great distance. At Hood River
Still, he went to great lengths, with a camera view though a
telescope, to photograph it.
He was successful.
So, the question, was, is this a Bald or a Golden Eagle. (Since
it didn't look like either)..
Now I have some experience with this eagle, long, long ago, in
Japan. So I recognized the possibilities pretty soon. It
didn't look like BAEA or GOEA
There were no responses so far to his photo, likely due to the
CBC Season in High Application.
I'm going out on a limb a little, myself, in proposing: White-tailed Eagle. See below.
As for eBird, not accounting the long-ago residency on Attu,
this would be the first record for the lower 48. There is one
for Kodiak IS, Alaska, and one for eastern Canada.
Further documentation is, of course, essential. Any sort of
flight shot would greatly help as this eagle has an amazingly
and distinctively short tail.
Some key features (not necessarily definitive) in Lars' photo. Apparent 'white eye ring'; Large whitish area below the
bill/eye, strangely mottled breast, relatively small, but
strongly hooked bill with darker tip. I don't know what to make
of the 'white' legs/feet, (perhaps staining?).
Hoping I'm correct and greatly in awe,
Bob OBrien Carver OR
PS In addition to the Macaulay images, I've taken the liberty
of attaching an adjusted version of Lars' very challenging
telescopic photo.
https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/377675901?_gl=1*16ir32x*_ga*MTMwMDUxMjIxOC4xNjQwMTUzMDI1*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTY0MDE1MzAzOC4xLjEuMTY0MDE1NTEyMS41OQ..#_ga=2.254203021.421433067.1640153025-1300512218.1640153025
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