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From: Larry McQueen <larmcqueen@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:47 AM
To: larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [obol] Re: Goldeneye Identification Help
Besides Lars's useful points in id of the bird in the photo, I would like to
add that the head color of female Barrow's is notably a darker, more roasted
color, as put in reference to coffee beans. Common G-e would have a lighter
roast. Also, the head of Barrow's, besides having a different shape, is
extended more toward the nape, making it look fuller behind.
Larry
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From: obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Lars
Per Norgren <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:51 AM
To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [obol] Re: Goldeneye Identification Help
I would call this one a Common. The culmen leaves the feathered head at eye
level. In a Barrows the culmen exits well below eye level, a much smaller beak.
Also the peak of the head feathers on this duck is behind the eye, in a
Barrow's it's further forward. Head shape on a living bird is highly plastic
as a bird does things with the feathers, but the skulls of the two species are
quite different Lars
On Feb 4, 2016, at 10:13 PM, Peter Nosler wrote:
Hi, everyone
Does anyone have any tips for identifying female goldeneyes? My sibley guide
says that there is more yellow on a barrow's goldeneye's beak than there is on
a common goldeneye's beak, but that this is not an infallible identification
mark. It also says that head and beak shape is pretty good for id, but
requires practice to learn. Can any of you make out any good identification
marks on the goldeneye in this picture?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127388251@N04/24459420739/in/dateposted-public/
Common
Goldeneye<https://www.flickr.com/photos/127388251@N04/24459420739/in/dateposted-public/>
[https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1599/24459420739_196826a9f5_b.jpg]<https://www.flickr.com/photos/127388251@N04/24459420739/in/dateposted-public/>
Thanks for your help,
Phil Nosler
