The large plovers are not easy, especially because they all have some color
variation. They are easier in flight.
Alan Contreras
acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx
Eugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com
On Sep 24, 2018, at 1:00 PM, Nagi Aboulenein <nagi.aboulenein@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Excellent - looks like the consensus is on BBPL, so I'll fix the ID on the
photos, and some good learnings for us when we see them next time!
Cheers,
Nagi
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:35 PM Caleb Centanni <caleb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:caleb@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
From reviewing the photos now and from memory, they also had significantly
smaller bills than the two Black-bellies present, which were especially
thinner and more tapered in the distal section, while Black-bellied typically
shows a bulbous tip.
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 12:30 PM Nolan Clements <nolanclements@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:nolanclements@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all,
Caleb Centanni and I were at South Beach around 11 a.m. on Saturday the 22nd,
and we had 2 Pacific Golden-Plovers and 2 Black-bellied Plovers. At one
point, all 4 birds were together, allowing for decent comparisons. The PAGPs
were clearly smaller and much brighter gold than the nearby drab and grey
BBPLs.
Photos of both can be seen at: https://ebird.org/pnw/view/checklist/S48673596 ;
<https://ebird.org/pnw/view/checklist/S48673596>
Good birding,
Nolan Clements
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 12:06 PM Kai Frueh <kaifrueh2@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:kaifrueh2@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Nagi and all,
I saw the Golden-Plovers about a week and a half ago with Hendrik Herlyn,
Oscar Harper, Isaac Denzer and my brother Ben.
We got very nice views and photos.
Photos on eBird checklists:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48561617 ;
<https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48561617>
Hope that helps
Kai Frueh
Corvallis,OR
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 11:35 AM Nagi Aboulenein <nagi.aboulenein@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:nagi.aboulenein@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks, Dave!
Interesting - I'm not sure whether these are the same birds that have been
sighted and ID'd as Pacific Golden Plovers on South Beach. Does anyone have
photos of the recent South Beach Golden Plovers, for comparison?
Taghrid and I assumed they were. The coloration on the South Beach birds also
was quite different from the BB Plover we saw later that day at HMSC Nature
Trail (but that might have been age related - the HMSC bird was
juvenile/immature, I believe). The SB birds really had a yellowish/golden
tinge to their color, while the HMSC bird was more gray/black/white...
Thanks,
Nagi
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 11:26 AM DJ Lauten and KACastelein
<deweysage@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:deweysage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Nagi
Those would be Black-bellied Plovers. Golden plovers are never this
whitish, and just the general body jizz screams BB Plover.
Lovely Snowy Plover pictures. As a side note, the Snowies now have been
wintering at South Beach for a good five years or even more (Cathy would
know). Once plovers establish a wintering site (or even breeding site),
they will become dependent on that site year after year. They have very
high site fidelity, both in winter and summer. So the bottom line is that
this site should be a very reliable site for Snowy Plovers into the
foreseeable future, as long as they are relatively undisturbed, the habitat
remains good, and everyone basically gives them a little space. They will
be quite accommodating to all the locals and birders - which is just awesome
news for everyone.
I should mention that anyone seeing Snowies might be interested to know that
birds with a single band on the right leg that is either RED or ORANGE means
that it was banded as a chick this past summer 2018 in Oregon. Knowing the
age of the birds may be a good exercise in both watching the progression of
molt and testing your ability to age and sex the plovers. If you want to
know specifics on where individuals are from, contact me directly and I will
do my best.
Cheers
Dave Lauten
Oregon Biodiversity Information Center
Institute for Natural Resources
PSU
On 9/24/2018 10:41 AM, Nagi Aboulenein wrote:
Hi Bob,
Unfortunately, no flight shots of the Golden Plovers. An inconsiderate biker
dragging a dog decided to drive too close to the birds, and they flew about
half a mile further south and didn't return while we were there. After
having gotten a good bunch of photos of them, I decided to shift focus (no
pun intended :-) ) to the Snowy Plovers, instead of pursuing the Goldens.
Interesting points that you raise, which I'm definitely not qualified to
respond to, so I'll take a backseat and watch the discussion unfold :)
Cheers,
Nagi
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:17 AM Bob Archer <rabican1@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:rabican1@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all:
I was looking at these great photos by Nagi, I was thinking the plovers at
South Beach are golden hued Black-bellied rather than Golden-Plovers. The
shorter wings, bulky look, bland face and large bill fit. hard for me to
judge size, but the Goldens are obviously smaller than a Black-bellied.
Maybe one has a very small bill but I think it is the angle.Any flight shots?
Bob Archer
PDX
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 9:10 PM Nagi Aboulenein <nagi.aboulenein@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:nagi.aboulenein@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Taghrid and I had an excellent weekend birding the Newport area on Saturday,
and Fort Stevens area on Sunday.
Newport area:
South Beach (south of the access trail from the restrooms):
2 Pacific Golden Plovers
Two dozen or so Snowy Plovers
1 Semi-palmated Sandpiper
2 Western Sandpipers
Two dozen or so Sanderlings
Also had a very brief view of what appeared to be a Lapland Longspur though
not 100% certain - keep your eyes open for one in that area
Hatfield MSC Nature Trail (across from the shelter):
1 Ruff
1 Black-bellied Plover
1 Least Sandpiper
Couple of hundred gulls: mostly California, with a handful of Western
12 or so Brown Pelicans
1 Northern Pintail
2 Greater White-fronted Geese
1 Great Blue Heron
1 Belted Kingfisher
1 Turkey Vulture
4 or 5 White-crowned Sparrows
Ft. Stevens - Trestle Bay:
1 Hudsonian Godwit (only far views, poor photos but definitely diagnostic)
1 Willet
6 Marbled Godwits
2 FOS Dunlins
8 Sanderlings at Ft. Stevens
2 Western Sandpipers
Western and California Gulls
2 Northern Harriers
Del Rey Beach to Peter Iredale:
Around 200 Sanderlings over a 6-7 mile stretch of beach - no other
shorebirds were seen
Western Gulls
California Gulls
1 Heerman’s Gull
Dozens of Brown Pelicans, lots of diving/fishing activity
1 Tern sp - very brief look, not long enough to identify
Here is a link to some photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskF9fEjP ;
<https://flic.kr/s/aHskF9fEjP> .
Good birding,
Nagi & Taghrid.
