Phil et al., There has been some "off air" discussion of the issues with dull Cassin's Vireos being potentially mistaken for Plumbeous Vireos. Based on your description, I suspect that your bird was a Cassin's. The fact that it "lacked the hooded look of a Cassin's" points away from it being a Plumbeous in my opinion. If anything, Plumbeous Vireos have a more sharply demarcated transition from white throat to the dark gray auriculars and hood, which accentuates the hooded effect. Something else to look at is bill size. Plumbeous Vireos have a longer and perhaps thicker bill than Cassin's. Finally, an important thing to remember about Cassin's (and other vireos) is that they molt but once a year in the Fall, thus they are at their brightest in fall and worn and dull in the Spring. Despite being well-aware that Cassin's can be really dull in Spring, twice in recent years I have seen dull spring Cassin's in shaded conditions that really had me going thinking that they might be Plumbeous. In one case, photos revealed color that I wasn't seeing and in the other (a bird seen by me, Shawneen Finnegan, David Fix, and Jude Power at Fields) the bird finally came out into open sunlight and it showed color that we could not see when it was in the shade. Despite the seemingly annual reports (most without much documentation), I believe that Plumbeous Vireo is an extremely rare bird in Oregon. As I told the group in our off air discussion, I would personally be very reluctant to fully claim a Plumbeous Vireo in Oregon unless I had convincing photos to back it up. Nice find on the redstart. I didn't look at the weather, were there easterly winds overnight? Dave Irons > From: philliplc@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [obol] Cascade Head 5/31 > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 10:25:32 -0700 > > meadow 5:30-8:30 AM: > > 1 AMERICAN REDSTART (5th in spring, > all first year males) > 23 Black Swift (all 6-7 AM over the top) > 140 Vaux's Swift (small flocks N) > 1 Purple Martin (transient adult female N > seen at 800 feet, odd timing/location) > 400+ Red Crossbill (trending N) > 150 Cedar Waxwing (N) > 50+ Yellow Warbler (only saw females) > 30+ Wilson's (influx mostly in one strung > out flock working the cliff rim) > 1 MacGillivray's > small numbers Pewee, Tanager, Grosbeak > > +1 uncooperative Plumbeous Vireo candidate, > seemed to lack all color and the hooded look of > Cassin's, but was staying in shade so hard to > feel confident. Definitely different, duller bird > than seen yesterday. > > only 8 Western Canada Geese and 5 of > those were headed south > > Interesting that Rufous Hummers have been > decidedly scarce in the meadow the last 2 > mornings where normally they are thick. > Just speculation but perhaps a late or poor > bloom season due to persistent poor weather > is at least partially responsible for the current > barrage at feeders. > > Phil > > > OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol > Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol > Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >