Thanks to Prof. Lamb. It would be a thesis length effort (several, maybe) to fully detail all the bits and pieces of evidence for the synthesis I've built from analysis of observations of over 300 languages over a span of 20 odd years (emphasis on odd). Where to start, how to condense?? How about the comment about the right hemisphere? As I mentioned in my recent posting, ideophones generally have about them a sense of lack or loss of control over state or dynamism. Thus rational animate agents find themselves at the mercy either of natural forces originating beyond the body, or of bodily physical states which impede the natural high levels of control prototypical agents should possess, despite any efforts they might make to regain or attain such control over events. Is there not some relation between the left hemisphere and fine motor control? Thus one might expect grammaticalized materials to have their neurological home base largely on the left. But if ideophones are a kind of antigrammar, then they might be mirrored in the right hemisphere directly opposite. Ideophones also tend to be produced in relatively relaxed discourse settings (not terribly goal-oriented), yet they themselves are often highly prosodically charged, and their use seems designed to elicit an emotional reaction in the listener- another right hemisphere hint? Further, we know that grammatical morphology evolves from lexicon, and both these are represented generally on the left side. If my hypothesis that ideophones are instead derived from prosody/intonation (which is on the RIGHT?), then they would also be localized with their source. The question then becomes- do Wernicke's and Broca's areas have directly opposing opposite numbers in the right hemisphere, and do they interact in ways similar to those of W. and B. areas on the left? If so, then which opposes which? Further grammatical evolution beyond normal grammaticalization (late stage "inflecting" types with a great deal of paradigmatic conflation, levelling, collapse, etc.)seems to feed the prosodic system. And according to recent work by others (such as Bill McGregor on Australian languages, others for Central Asian language families such as Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, etc., Suzanne Wash on Miwokan, etc.) ideophones are often a major source of new lexical roots (for instance one thesis I have on hand (whose author I can't think of)says that somewhere between 30-40% of all lexical roots are ideophonic in origin in one Uralic language). Such numbers don't seem to be at all unusual. My point here is that while lexicon feeds morphology, the latter's demise seems to feed prosody (a major part of syntax). Conversely, prosody may (IF my thesis about their origins is largely correct) feed the ideophone system, whose demise then feeds the lexicon. Full circle. So do we have then Wernicke's and Broca's areas in one hemisphere in a feed relation, and their counterpoints in the other similarly organized? If so, how then do commissural interhemispheric linkages perhaps then coordinate their activities? I've already mentioned the syntactic relation of prosody- would we then expect this zone, if real, to be opposite the home of grammaticalized morphology on the opposite side, so that they may in some real way actively oppose each other? Given the attachment of ideophones to sensation (far more developed in their semantics than any motoric senses), might we then be also able to hypothesize that they would be opposite the lexical association areas near the sensory cortical regions? Since I'm only guessing about the possible existance of any discrete area for ideophones there is no way I'm going to wax the know-it-all here. However, if there is such an area, wouldn't brain lesion studies be able to help us home in on it? Are there patients whose ability to play with language, including the use of sound symbolism and other similar forms of iconicity, be impaired? This is an eminently testable notion, I would imagine. One last point for this post- I mentioned that the languages with lots of ideophones tend to be those of the isolating/analytical kind or those with relatively fresh agglutinating character. These are also those types most likely to have a great deal of use of tone or similar contrasts- more right-hemisphere association? Best, Jess Tauber phonosemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxx