[net-gold] UNITED STATES: GOVERNMENT : INFORMATION LEAKS : ESPIONAGE AND SURVEILLANCE : SPYS AND SPYING: N.S.A. : COUNTRIES: UNITED STATES, AUSTRALIA, INDONESIA: Indonesia: Australia and US Need to Clean Up Their Mess

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  • Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:27:58 -0500 (EST)



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UNITED STATES: GOVERNMENT :

INFORMATION LEAKS :

ESPIONAGE AND SURVEILLANCE :

SPYS AND SPYING: N.S.A. :

COUNTRIES: UNITED STATES, AUSTRALIA, INDONESIA:

Indonesia: Australia and US Need to Clean Up Their Mess

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Indonesia: Australia and US Need to Clean Up Their Mess

Oliver Laughland and Bridie Jabour

The Guardian

Sunday 16 February 2014 01.42 EST

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/16/ indonesia-australia-and-us-need-to-clean-up-their-mess

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A shorter URL for the above link:

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http://tinyurl.com/ltrn4hj

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Indonesia has said Australia and America need to clean up their mess to salvage relations with Indonesia after revelations that Australia spied on a law firm representing Indonesia in a trade dispute.

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New documents from whistleblower Edward Snowden reveal that the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD) spied on an American law firm representing Indonesia in a trade dispute and offered the information to America, the New York Times reported on Sunday.

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Indonesian presidential adviser and spokesman on foreign affairs, Teuku Faizasyah, said the president had been advised of the revelations by foreign minister Marty Natalegawa.

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Indeed, it is another perplexing revelation of spying toward Indonesias national interest, he told Guardian Australia via text message.

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I wonder what more Snowden has in store? Therefore, it is the responsibility of countries (US & Australia) engaged in this complicity to clean up the mess, to salvage their bilateral relations with Indonesia.

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Prime minister Tony Abbott said it was a longstanding practice of all Australian governments not to comment on intelligence matters, but that the country did not spy for commercial purposes.

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Negotiations are ongoing between Australia and Indonesia to set up a code of ethics between the countries after Guardian Australia and ABC reported last year that Australia had tapped the phone of Indonesias president and his inner circle, including his wife.

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The documents used in the latest reports came from whistleblower Edward Snowden and also revealed that Americans mentored Australians on how to crack encrypted communication used by Papua New Guinea in 2003 and that America had given Australia access to mass cell data from Indonesia, which included information on officials working in ministries.

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Greens senator Scott Ludlam said Australia was being used for corporate and economic surveillance that had nothing to do with national security.

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He said the latest documents were helping expose how enmeshed Australia is in a global surveillance network and in helping other countries to circumvent their own laws.

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This uncovers the degree to which agencies and surveillance powers are being used for economic and corporate espionage, which has nothing to do with national security, he said.

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I suspect this is going to further degrade the trust between Indonesia and Australia, he said.

This is not targeted espionage, this is not breaking up terror cells, its wholesale vacuuming of metadata involving ordinary people and it is not clear to me, or many people, how this improves the ability to find people who are legitimate intelligence targets.

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The complete article may be read at the URL above.

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