. . Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:37:53 -0700 From: Richard Hake <rrhake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: Net-Gold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: AERA-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Net-Gold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Net-Gold] Re: Should the History of Science Be Rated X? . . If you reply to this long (14 B) post please don't hit the reply button unless you prune the copy of this post that may appear in your reply down to a few relevant lines, otherwise the entire already archived post may be needlessly resent to subscribers. . ************************************************** . PhysLnrR Noah Podolefsky wrote (paraphrasing): "I might be more comfortable with the "recapitulation view" that students' scientific thinking needs to go in the same order as the historical scientific development, if the latter were presented as it actually happens - that is, in fits and starts, with a great deal of controversy and confusion, and 'understanding' only clearly realized in hindsight, long after the foundational theories and experiments were done." . Nearly four decades ago science historian Stephen Brush (1974) <http://bit.ly/OpQNbw> addressed the issue of presenting *fictionalized* vs *actual* scientific history to students in his classic "Should the History of Science Be Rated X? The way scientists behave (according to historians) might not be a good model for students." . Brush wrote "I suggest that the teacher who wants to indoctrinate his students in the traditional role of the scientist as a neutral fact finder should not use historical materials of the kind now being prepared by historians of science: they will not serve his purposes." . Brush concluded; "In more recent times, hostility to science has been intensified by the image of the 'objective,' robot-like scientist lacking emotions and moral values. If the new approach to the history of science really does give a more realistic picture of the behavior of scientists, perhaps it has a 'redeeming social significance.' Then, rather than limiting the conception of science to the strict pattern allowed by traditional local standards, one might try to change those standards in such a way as to reflect the freedom that the boldest natural philosophers have always exercised." . ************************************************** . Here is my attempt [bracketed by double lines "~*~*~*~*~* ~*. . . . ."; my CAPS] to make sense of some of the PhysLrnR posts on the thread "Re: historical development (was FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood)." [These posts have been almost impossible to follow because of the hit-the-reply-button syndrome which degrades the PhysLrnR archives with ambiguous *covert* quotes preceded by ">" ">>" ">>>". . . .; ; please let me know if I've failed to decipher any posts]: . ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* . John Clement (2012) in his post "Re: FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood," wrote: ". . . . . . . THE HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT MAY ACTUALLY HAVE BENEFIT FOR STUDENTS. THEIR CHANGE IN THINKING MAY NEED TO GO IN THE SAME ORDER THROUGH SOME OF THE HISTORICAL CHANGES." . To which Noah Podolefsky (2012a) in his post "Re: historical development (was FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood)" *covertly* quoted the above CAPITALIZED text and then wrote [bracketed by lines "PPPPPP. . . ." . PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP . Just to pick up on this idea, to quote Hammer et al. . . . . [[following PhysLrnR's protocol, no reference is given]]. . . .who borrow the idea from evolutionary biology, ontogeny need not recapitulate phylogeny. That is, the development of the organism (or student) need not follow the historical development of the species (or scientific field). . This idea has been pretty thoroughly debunked in evolutionary bio . . . . .[[see, e.g., <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory>]].. . . . ., partly because it just isn't how things work, and also because logically there isn't any reason to believe the processes involved in evolution of species are the same as those involved in development of the individual. . Likewise, there's little reason to believe the processes involved in the advancement of science are the same as those involved in the development of knowledge for individuals. ANOTHER SERIOUS THREAT TO THE RECAPITULATION VIEW IS THAT THE SCIENCE, AS DESCRIBED IN TEXTBOOKS, IS GENERALLY A GROSS MISCHARACTERIZATION OF HOW THE SCIENCE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED. SO IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THE TEXTBOOK PATH, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE FOLLOWING THE WAY SCIENTISTS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED THE IDEAS IN THE FIRST PLACE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP . To which Bernard Cleyet (2012) responded by *covertly* quoting the above CAPITALIZED text and then stating: . "I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE, BECAUSE THE TEXT WRITER HAS ALL THE KNOWLEDGE 'AT ONCE' NOT GAINED CHRONOLOGICALLY." . Podolfsky (2012b) responded by *covertly* quoting from the above CAPITALIZED text and then stating: . "Very true. In addition, the text writer has a fairly clean and consistent story to tell that has been refined and passed down. In some sense, I might be more comfortable with the recapitulation view if it were recapitulating how much of science happens - that is, in fits and starts, with a great deal of controversy and confusion, and "understanding" only clearly realized in hindsight, long after the foundational theories and experiments were done." . ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~* . Nearly four decades ago science historian Stephen Brush (1974) <http://bit.ly/OpQNbw> addressed the issue of presenting *fictionalized* vs *actual* scientific history to students in his classic "Should the History of Science Be Rated X? The way scientists behave (according to historians) might not be a good model for students." The abstract reads [bracketed by lines "BBBBBBB. . . . "; my CAPS; unless you or your institution has a subscription to "Science" you'll have to pay $15.00 to get the references]: . BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB . I suggest that the teacher who wants to indoctrinate his students in the traditional role of the scientist as a neutral fact finder should not use historical materials of the kind now being prepared by historians of science: they will not serve his purposes. He may wish to follow the advice of philosopher J. C. C. Smart, who recently suggested that IT IS LEGITIMATE TO USE FICTIONALIZED HISTORY OF SCIENCE TO ILLUSTRATE ONE'S PRONOUNCEMENTS ON SCIENTIFIC METHOD (56). On the other hand, those teachers who want to counteract the dogmatism of the textbooks and convey some understanding of science as an activity that cannot be divorced from metaphysical or esthetic considerations may find some stimulation in the new history of science. As historian D. S. L. Cardwell has argued (57, p. 120): . . . . [I]f the history of science is to be used as an educational discipline, to inculcate an enlightened and critical mind, then the Whig view. . . . .[[ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_history>]] . . . . . . cannot do this. For it must emphasize the continuities, the smooth and successive developments from one great achievement to the next and so on; and in doing so it must automatically endow the present state of science with all the immense authority of history. . He [Cardwell] suggests that THE CRITICAL MIND MIGHT BE INHIBITED BY SEEING THE PRESENT AS THE INEVITABLE, TRIUMPHANT PRODUCT OF THE PAST. The history of science could aid the teaching of science by showing that "such puzzling concepts as force, energy, etc., are man-made and were evolved in an understandable sequence in response to acutely felt and very real problems. THEY WERE NOT HANDED DOWN BY SOME CELESTIAL TEXTBOOK WRITER TO WHOM THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY SELF-EVIDENT" (57, p. 120). . The past may give some hints on how to survive the most recent recurrence of public hostility to science. Rather than blaming historians such as Kuhn for encouraging antiscientific attitudes, as one physicist did in a public address in 1972 (58), one might consider this criticism of the older style of science history, published in 1940 by W. James Lyons (59, p. 381): . "The historians of science are responsible, it would appear, for the unpopularity of science among those most acutely affected by the depression. In their clamor to enhance the scientific tradition, and hoard for science all credit for the remarkable and unprecedented material advances which studded the century and a quarter preceding 1930, THESE HISTORIANS HAVE BEEN MORE ENTHUSIASTIC THAN ACCURATE . . . science emerged [in the popular mind] as the most prominent force responsible for making this modern world so startlingly different from all preceding ages. Thus when, for many people, the modern world, in spite of all its resources, began to slip from its role of 'best of all imaginable worlds,' science came in for a proportionate share of blame. HAD A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF THE PART SCIENCE HAS played been presented, science would not now be the object of so much suspicion and resentment." . In more recent times, hostility to science has been intensified by the image of the "objective," robot-like scientist lacking emotions and moral values. IF THE NEW APPROACH TO THE HISTORY OF SCIENCE REALLY DOES GIVE A MORE REALISTIC PICTURE OF THE BEHAVIOR OF SCIENTISTS, PERHAPS IT HAS A "REDEEMING SOCIAL SIGNIFICANCE." Then, rather than limiting the conception of science to the strict pattern allowed by traditional local standards, one might try to change those standards in such a way as to reflect the freedom that the boldest natural philosophers have always exercised. . BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB . . . Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University Links to Articles: <http://bit.ly/a6M5y0> Links to SDI Labs: <http://bit.ly/9nGd3M> Blog: <http://bit.ly/9yGsXh> Twitter <http://bit.ly/juvd52> GooglePlus: <http://bit.ly/KwZ6mE> . . . REFERENCES [All URL's shortened by <http://bit.ly/> and accessed on 09 July 2012. To access posts on the PhysLrnR archives one needs to subscribe :-(, but that takes only a few minutes by clicking on <http://bit.ly/nG318r> and then clicking on "Join or Leave . . . PHYSLRNR-LIST." If you're busy, then subscribe using the "NOMAIL" option under "Miscellaneous." Then, as a subscriber, you may access the archives and/or post messages at any time, while receiving NO MAIL from the list! . Brush, S.G. 1974. "Should the History of Science Be Rated X? The way scientists behave (according to historians) might not be a good model for students." An abstract is online at <http://bit.ly/NCzNjb>, where the article can be purchased for $15.00. . Clement, J. 2012. "Re: FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood," online on the PhysLrnR archives at <http://bit.ly/LYEtCa>. Post of 7 Jul 2012 10:42:08-0500 to PhysLrnR. . Cleyet, B. 2012. "Re: historical development (was FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood)" online at <http://bit.ly/McIwN9>. Post of 7 Jul 2012 10:09:49-0700 to PhysLrnR. . Podolefsky, N. 2012a. "historical development (was FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood)," online on the PhysLrnR archives at <http://bit.ly/RP9KIh>. Post of 7 Jul 2012 10:14:45-0600 to PhysLrnR. . Podolefsky, N. 2012b "historical development (was FCI results for Chabay & Sherwood)," online on the PhysLrnR archives at <http://bit.ly/MgqB4q>. Post of 7 Jul 2012 11:26:39 -0600 to PhysLrnR. . .