Thanks Hugh, I didn't even know this existed. I downloaded the database from Wedge Entomological and C. continuella has only been reported from the far north. C. formosella does have some NC records but all from the mountains. C. obscurusella which Bob Perkins suggested only has one record, also from the mountains. After looking at C. obscurusella, I am leaning toward this but may have to look a bit more now that I have this new database. There are only 18109 records so it shouldn't take too long ;). Thanks guys, Tom Sanders Charlotte, NC Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:46:50 -0400 Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Spring Oak Leafroller Moth? From: hdmcguinness@xxxxxxxxx To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you are going to try to ID Chionodes from photos, then you should make sure that you have a copy of the MONA fascicle 7.6 since it will allow you to make a list of all the possible species in your area and also provides diagnoses, photos (often of the type) and phenology data. It is expensive ($115), but then again Ron probably spent 5-10 years working on it. You can also download the data from the fascicle at the Wedge Entomological website, which includes 18000+ records and would provide a preliminary list for your area. Hugh On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:03 AM, TNT Sanders <tsanders1993@xxxxxxx> wrote: I'm calling this 2069 - Chionodes continuella (Spring Oak Leafroller Moth) but it could be 2077 - C. formosella. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tom Sanders Charlotte, NC -- Hugh McGuinness Sag Harbor, NY