Larry, I think the the first one is Coleotechnites quercivorella, 1828, while the second is Coleotechnites florae, 1809. That is just my opinion, others may differ. Kyle ________________________________ From: Larry McDaniel <larrycmcd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tn-moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ncsc-moths <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:52 AM Subject: [ncsc-moths] ID help Washington County, TN Not sure what these are. I was looking at maybe Coleotechnites florae - Coleotechnites Flower Moth - Hodges#1809. The first one was in Johnson City, the second in Jonesborough. Larry McDaniel