David Fierbaugh <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: "How would you like to by a computer that the software is only three days old when you receive it?" with the latest security patches and virus definitions it would be a good thing. to paraphrase automobile sales , it would have that "new code smell". we really are getting the benefit from all the people developing the open source software. when i bought my notebook, i told the salesman (who was horrified) that the first thing i was going to do to it was wipe all the M$ software pre-installed off the hard disk. i had more up-to-date software to be put in. terabytes of downloaded and verified data later, it still works great. --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!