Yes, it was catecsim Cheryl. Sorry, it’s been so long I just forgot. I
didn’t go to catholic school though, I went every week to catechism after
school, went to church every Sunday and yes it was in Latin, but I use to
ask mom what the priest was saying, you were smart to learn some of the
language. I went through the holy communion and confirmation also,
confirmation was special to me. The priest who blessed me gave me the wrong
name though, i was supposed to be confirmed as Elizabeth but he confirmed
me as Mary, oh well ...I loved the Girl Scouts too it was different I am
sure. I don’t know anyone who is in it now. We use to go on the most wonder
camping trips and we would learn about survival in the wild how to find our
tracks if we got lost and how to find our way back with markers. I loved it
in those days,
Love, Janet
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:48 PM Cheryl Gehrke <cheryl_g@xxxxx> wrote:
Yes, it was the girl scouts who put on the play. Our leader was a very
staunch catholic woman. We were proud to earn our badges and learn from
her. It wasn’t like the Girl Scouts of today. I wouldn’t even consider
being in the Girl Scouts of today. It is sad. Just like the Boy Scouts. It
is just not the same. She was really nice and very strong in the church.
She thought it would be a good idea to put on a play for St. Valentines day
to honor the saint and let people know more about him. It would have been a
good serious play if not for our clumsiness which kind of turned it into a
comedy of sorts. I didn’t know about St. Valentine until we did this play.
It was neat going to that church. The priests gave mass in Latin and I
learned a lot of Latin from the masses. I remember catechism. We had it in
our school classes though. I don’t know about any other classes or I
forgot. I cannot remember any other classes.
Love
Cheryl
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Oh I thought you were talking about learning about Valentine in Catholic
School. Not catechism, what were the classes that we used to go to once a
week at the Catholic Church. I learned about st Valentine's from mom
mostly and it was always something I was interested in so I did my own
studying just to understand Valentine's day.
Very interesting the play that you were in. I am surprised so you are
saying that is from the girl scouts? Love, Janet
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 7:46 PM Cheryl Gehrke <cheryl_g@xxxxx> wrote:
Well it wasn’t really in catechism. It was really put on by the Girl
Scouts. We were a small troop and I think we only had about 4 or 5 members.
We learned all kinds of really good stuff there. Our troop was sponsored
by the Catholic Church there and we did all kinds of things like that. All
the higher classes 7th and 8th grades were brought in and they got to
see us. It was the Hilton Mt. Carmel school in Socorro, New Mexico. I
loved that old church. Grade 1 through 8 and then we had to go to regular
high school. We only did the St. Valentine play when I was in the 8th
grade and then I had to go to High School. I don’t know if they continued
it after we went to high school or not.
Love
Cheryl
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Saint Inspired Valentine's Day
Wow Cheryl. Sounds like you really got into it. We never had plays in
catechism like that.but I think he's a pretty amazing man
Love,
Janet
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 3:30 PM Cheryl Gehrke <cheryl_g@xxxxx> wrote:
Yes I always thought it was so neat. I went to a Catholic school when I
was younger. In the 6th, 7th and 8th grades. I joined the Girl Scouts
when I was in the 7th and 8th grades and we learned about St. Valentine.
We had this little play in our school cafeteria where Linda Devlin and I
played the Roman soldiers and Sylvia Kimball played St. Valentine. We
practiced the play many times and we had cardboard swords covered with
aluminum foil and since we had practiced so many times, our swords were
kind of getting a little worse for wear, so when we had the play in front
of all the kids in our school, we brought St. Valentine out who was dressed
in her moms bath robe and threw him (her) in our little jail which was a
big cardboard box and we asked him (Sylvia) to renounce Jesus and she said
no,no I will never renounce Jesus. So Linda and I said then you are going
to die. We took her out of the prison and she tripped over her moms bath
robe and fell down. (Laughter) We picked her up roughly and we tied her up
to a pole. Then we stabbed her with our swords, and both of our swords bent
in half. All the kids cracked up laughing. Even the nuns had a hard time
keeping a straight face. It was not supposed to end that way. So every
Valentines Day I think about that. I think also about how hard it was back
in those days to worship God and believe and worship Jesus, and how many
people died for their belief in Jesus especially with the Romans as they
had their own gods and wanted everyone to believe and worship their gods
which were idols. So many died in horrible ways. They were not
compassionate people those Romans. And how Jesus said to endure to the end,
even in death. All the Christians had to do was worship the statue of Diana
one of their goddesses but they refused to do it. They endured to the end.
Love
Cheryl
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Saint Inspired Valentine's Day
Isn’t that so awesome that valentines days origins began with this amazing
and beautiful saint who was martyred and died for Jesus. I knew about him
when I was growing up, raised as a catholic. And every year I tribute part
of the day for him, like st. Francis he was so special. I didn’t know about
the bees though which thrills me to pieces. We could sure use him in this
mess we are in now.
There are so many martyrdom stories associated Valentine’s Day, st
Valentine’s was imprisoned for ministering to Christians persecuted under
the Roman Empire in the 3rd century. It was even said that this saint
healed and restored the sight to a blind daughter of his jailer. Then the
legend went on and claimed he wrote the jailers daughter a letter and
signed it “your valentine” as a farewell before his execution, and
performed weddings for Christian soldiers who were forbidden to marry.
Thanks for sharing.
Love, Janet
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:03 AM Evonne Vey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If you lived in the early first few centuries AD, and didn’t have as much
historical documentation as the New Testament
<https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence>, a great deal of legend or myth
would happen to arise about your life.
Such is the case with St. Valentine (or Valentinus), of the third century
AD, from whom we best know the holiday associated with him on February 14 -
Valentine’s Day.
But certainly something went awry from the life of a celibate saint whose
legacy has turned into a day where significant others hand each other
chocolates and candies. What all do we *really *know about this martyr?
And what myths have developed about him over time?
We’ll dive into the true life of St. Valentine and separate the fact from
the fiction.
Photo credit: Pexels/Ylanite Koppens
*Facts about St. Valentine*
Unfortunately, because St. Valentine lived more than 1700 years ago, we
don’t have many solid details on his life. Because, as mentioned before, we
don’t have 5600 Greek manuscripts corroborating the evidence and details of
his life, as we do have for the New Testament, we have only some skeletonic
facts about the life of this Saint.
<https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/spiritual-life/who-was-st-valentine-509916.html>
First, we do know that St. Valentine lived during the mid to late 3rd
century. As a refresher in church history, this was a period of intense
persecution in Rome prior to Constantine’s reign in Rome in the 300s AD
where he legalized Christianity
<https://www.gotquestions.org/Constantine-the-Great.html>.
We know that St. Valentine was working as a Roman priest during the reign
of an emperor named Claudius, as explained by David Kithcart
<https://www1.cbn.com/st-valentine-real-story> in this article. The
emperor’s nickname, Claudius the Cruel,
<https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/st-valentine-beheaded>can
give readers a hint at some of the persecution Christians may have endured
under his rule. What’s more, many Romans experienced some persecution under
the emperor as well.
As stated in the History.com article linked above, Claudius likely
believed that the reason the Roman army wasn’t as formidable as possible
was because husbands wanted to stay at homes with their wives and families
instead of fighting in wars.
To combat this, Claudius made marriage and engagements illegal in Rome to
sway male soldiers to stay in the Roman army and not worry about a
significant other back home.
Valentine, a proponent of marriage, especially Christian marriage, married
many couples in secret.
When Claudius II discovered him, explains Kithcart, he sentenced Valentine
to a three-part execution: beating, stoning, and then a beheading. Most
believe St. Valentine was killed during the year 270 AD, but some have
debated whether his death happened during one of the surrounding years.
Valentine has since become a patron Saint of Love
<https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/love-bible-verses/>, and
actually, a patron saint of beekeepers, explains this article
<https://www.worldvision.org/economic-empowerment-news-stories/saint-valentine-day-beekeepers>
from
World Vision, since bees are often equated as an aphrodisiac.
<https://www.worldvision.org/economic-empowerment-news-stories/saint-valentine-day-beekeepers>
*St. Valentine: Patron saint of beekeepers | World Vision*
There's more to St. Valentine than Valentine's Day, romance, and love.
He's the patron saint of beekeepers. See ...
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Janet
"Whoever saves a single life, it is as if he had saved the whole world"
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