On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:49:22 -0500, Lee Dickey <Lee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2005 Jan 24, at 09:11, Garth Phillips wrote: > > > When pulling pix in or out of power point try saving the image in the > > bitmap > > rather than jpg format.... While you can't manipulate them as much > > afterwards, bmp files are usually 1/3 the size of jpg. In doing this, > > I've > > taken presentations from 20MB down to 2 or 3MB. Loads and mails lots > > faster > > too! The format use when you EXPORT the image from PP will not change the quality contained in the original file. It's best to export the image into the same format as was used to insert it (i.e. JPEG for JPEGs, BMP for BMPs, etc.). > Garth's comment about size and manipulability > does not match my experience. Through experimentation, > I have found that a lot depends on the type > of picture. <snip Very detailed and correct summary of image compression> There is a slight hitch in PowerPoint and that is that (the Windows version at least) sometimes compresses BMP files. JPEGs come in as compressed images and PowerPoint seems not to be able to handle them effectively -- if you manipulate them they baloon in size. The few times I used BMPs I managed to retain the high quality of uncompressed images but with "smaller" .ppt files (I wonder if it runs BMPs through a GIF-style compression). Just as a Cole's Notes version of image formats: You've got (1) uncompressed, (2) lossy compression and (3) lossless compression. GIF and compressed TIFF are loss-less compression techniques. You don't lose detail but it also doesn't make for very small files. JPEG is by far the most famous lossy compression -- you can determine how much detail you are willing to lose, and, thereby create rather small images. Uncompressed images... well, they're huge. The major reason you'd work with uncompressed images is for manipulation speed (in PhotoShop, for e.g.) -- compressed images (even loss-less) take time to decompress. With 2.5 GHz G5 CPUs this is no longer an issue for most tasks, but when we were still living with 100 MHz 601s it was more efficient (sometimes) for PhotoShop & the likes to read uncompressed images from disk than to waste CPU cycles decompressing TIFFs or JPEGs. JPEG is a "lossy" compression. GIF is a "loss less" compression. BMP is uncompressed which means its colour (8, 16, 24, 32 bit per pixel) images are *huge*. TIFF has a variety of states, but, when compressed it's compressed using lossless compression -- you can get uncompressed images which are downright huge but you can also apply different styles of compression to bring file sizes down like GIF (TIFF is BMP and GIF combined into one format). Eric. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/