I agree with the Step-by-step books by MS Press. I kinda forget about them cos' I have them all and take them for granted. I admit that I don't use the Word book much, cos' I know that program and it's not the best reference book...the Bibles are better for getting quick answers to what you need to know. But as for learning...the Step-by-Step books are great. One of these days I may even crack open that damn Excel one and give Linda a run for her money!<lol> (Right!) Dian D. Chapman Technical Consultant, Microsoft MVP & Instructor Free Tutorials: www.mousetrax.com/techtrax Free Word Tips & Tricks eBook: www.mousetrax.com/books.html Learn VBA the easy way, thru video! www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Yager Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:07 AM To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mso] Re: Out-of-control style names I have found the Microsoft Press books to be the best in teaching with a plain english point of view. They are the books I highly recommend in all my classes dealing with MS products. The classic workbook takes you through the tools available in the software module by module and then topic by topic and if they have sample files included on disk the topics use one file to build on throughout each module. Difficult to just jump to a topic and then learn only that which is pertinent to the real world scenario you are dealing with. The MS Press books I've used are the At-A-Glance series and show step-by-step (which is another series I recommend) on one or two pages how to perform a task. Go to Borders, grab a latte, and take two of the MS Press At-A-Glance or Step-by-Step series books and compare them to see what might suit your reading and learning style. Just my two cents...... The following message was sent by Katherine Driskell Felts <subscriptions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:32:33 -0500. > Nice post, Dian. Can you suggest a good Word book? :) > > What about books in print on actual paper? > > Kathie > -- > Katherine Driskell Felts > kdfconsulting > Bringing resources and results together(sm) Sign Up for our email > newsletter, KuDos Files (tm) on our website www.kdfconsulting.com > 507-444-0204 > Toll free: 1-866-kdf-4-411 > > > > From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Organization: MouseTrax Computing Solutions > > Reply-To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:59:32 -0500 > > To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [mso] Re: Out-of-control style names > > > > Glad it helped and sorry if I sound a little condescending > > today...don't mean to be, just under stress and very matter-o-fact. > > > > As for being self-taught...so am I. What you need to do is...rather > > than hunt and peck around the program as 80% of folks generally > > do...go get > a > > good book on Word and spent a few days away from the PC and just > > READ > it. > > Break out the post-it and tag the pages that have info you didn't > > know > about > > or don't understand. Then move to the PC and do a day/two of > > practice learning what you didn't know before. > > > > In a week...you'll be much better trained. > > > > That's how I've done it for years and I've become very proficient in > dozens > > of programs/technologies/dev languages in a couple weeks. Of course, > if I > > had a sponge brain like Greg...I'd actually REMEMBER everything I've > ever > > read! ;-) > > > > Check out this article: > > > > www.mousetrax.com/styles.html > > > > Dian D. Chapman > > Technical Consultant, > > Microsoft MVP & Instructor > > > > Free Tutorials: www.mousetrax.com/techtrax Free Word Tips & Tricks > > eBook: www.mousetrax.com/books.html Learn VBA the easy way, thru > > video! www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Beth Lee > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:39 AM > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [mso] Re: Out-of-control style names > > > > Thanks for your answer. > > > > As I'm sure you're aware, the problem with being self-taught is that > you > > have a lousy teacher. > > > > Your comments together with the Tips for Using Styles at the > > Microsoft website have also shown that I've been creating styles > > without differentiating between paragraph styles and character > > styles. Thanks > for > > the help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Beth Lee > > Tallahasee, Florida > > > > e-mail: callibeth@xxxxxxxxxxx > > website: mywebpages.comcast.net/callibeth > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Dian Chapman > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:52 AM > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [mso] Re: Out-of-control style names > > > > > > That's because you're NOT clicking on the style and clicking MODIFY, > but > > rather just piling on more and more formatting to the original > > paragraph style, manually. > > > > This was a fix MS put in for folks who don't know how to use styles. > > Previously, they would do it that way and the styles would be lost. > > So > they > > now pile on the additional formatting WITH the style and make a > > revised version of it. 1) So you don't lose the formatting you > > wanted...2) in > the > > hopes you would ask this question and learn to do it properly. > > > > Dian D. 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