[mso] [OT] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP
- From: David Good - ANSYS Europe <david.good@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:36:05 -0500
Don't forget that unlike Office applications, it's always recommended to do
a COMPLETE reinstall of an OS (i.e. format that drive), although it's
scarier, upgrades NEVER work ;)
As I'm pushing the boundaries of this and an Office group, I'm going to stop
there and wish everyone a good weekend!
Dave.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamshed Mehta [mailto:roameri@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 17 January 2003 16:28
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
All this stuff replied has got me more apprehensive
about an alteration. Ofcourse the side act of personal disagreements have
been entertaining. However, I need to run the latest MYOB (Australian)
Accounts Package as it appears very suitable for a tiny business like mine.
And these application package vendors always favour the latest OS from MS.
Its really not important that I have to spend money. Its always not pleasant
to alter anything in life thats going on fine. Its frightening to alter your
OS. I am sure there will be foulups, in spite of Greg's optimism. You see I
am not a top notch system engineer like him.
Cheers,
Jamshed.
it appears i need to
--- Dian Chapman <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Mine turn! First I love that spouses can agree to
> disagree so
> publicly!!! Greg Chapman says "yes" and Dian Chapman
> says "flat-out NO"
>
> <hee, hee>
>
> And in five years, we've only had ONE argument that
> was of any
> concern!<g> We respect each other's opinions (most
> of the time<smirk>).
> I can appreciate Greg's opinion and if I were also a
> senior systems
> engineer, responsible for the problems of about a
> bazillion employees in
> a dozen remote locations and had to keep all those
> systems and servers
> running...then I TOO would be the first one to beg
> for the latest,
> greatest software...budgets be damned!
>
> Plus, realize...as an MVP...I get all MS software
> and betas free. So I
> have every version of Word, including the next one.
> XP is ok and I agree
> with Linda that, if you're still using 97, you
> SHOULD upgrade to either
> 2000 or XP, cos' 97 has problems. And I also agree
> with Greg that using
> Outlook XP is much better than previous versions.
>
> But when talking Word...I still prefer 2000 and
> generally use it most of
> the time. I know why MS has set up the user
> interface so even a monkey
> can use it without much problem. Wizards galore...so
> you can deal with
> productivity and not have to deal with learning how
> to use the program
> before you can get your work done.
>
> But the question was...the user has 97 and is happy
> with it. Should he
> spend the money now to change to XP. I think he'd be
> better off doing
> what one of my students recently did and find a
> cheap version of 2000 to
> purchase. That'll provide more stability and less of
> a learning curve.
> XP doesn't offer all that much as compared to 2000,
> in my opinion. And
> they've added more hassles for regular users, since
> they need to relearn
> how to do things that have changed, unless they
> spend time putting Word
> BACK the way they're used to using it. Like adding
> back the old Mail
> Merge dialog rather than that stupid wizard. Again,
> I see the
> point...who needs to learn mail merge when it can be
> a hassle. But damn
> it...at least give the users a better chance to make
> a choice! Because
> I'm a loyal user...*I* have to spent time digging to
> get back the
> productivity I need and yet the newbie has it easy?
> I also have to work
> twice as hard to handle forms...now having to clear
> my development
> fields cos' some folks can't handle learning how to
> create forms
> properly. And give me the CHOICE of using the task
> pane or NOT if I
> don't want the damn thing! Yes...I could go on and
> on, but I'll step off
> the soap box now.
>
> The bottom line is...as someone
> one...Linda?...said...the next version
> will be available in not too long. So at this point,
> I'd wait to see if
> it might be better to use the newest version rather
> than spending the
> money now on XP, or find a cheap version of
> 2000...since it's older and
> you can find it cheaper on the net.
>
>
> Dian Chapman
> Technical Consultant, Instructor,
> Microsoft MVP & TechTrax Editor
>
> Word AutoForm/VBA eBook:
> http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
> Tutorial web site:
> http://www.mousetrax.com/techpage.html
> TechTrax Ezine: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of April Pace
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:16 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
>
>
>
> Mine turn! First I love that spouses can agree to
> disagree so
> publicly!!! Greg Chapman says "yes" and Dian Chapman
> says "flat-out NO"
>
> Without getting into all the pros/cons about the
> technical aspects of
> upgrading to XP, I will give you my two cents of why
> to upgrade to
> WinXP.... If you are like me, I have a home office,
> with two small
> toddles... their favorite way of getting my
> attention, is to come in and
> hit the off button on my 'puter killing what ever I
> had been doing since
> my last save... In WinXP, I can make the off button
> work just like the
> Start/Turn Off Computer .... Now when they hit that
> button, instead of
> it killing my puter, it asks me if I want to Shut
> Down/Restart/Cancel.... And I can just Cancel the move and kill them
> instead... Also If your puter/mouse ever locks up,
> And you can't to a
> normal restart... you can hit that button and get to
> the restart option
> without having to do a hard shut down....
>
> April
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Chuck H.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:00 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
>
>
>
> Well, it sounds pretty darn logical to me, and I'm considering
> upgrading to Win XP Professional. The thing that we can't get
> around, however,
> and that bugs the devil out of me, is that the
> Longhorn release is not
> too far down the road now and, not long after that,
> Blackcomb. If
> Microsoft is going to release another OS every 18
> months to two years,
> we may as well get that third job and start saving
> more money for
> constant upgrades!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:29 PM
> Subject: [mso] Re: Is it worth changing over to?XP ?
>
>
> >
> > Hi Jamshed!
> >
> > My own opinion is yes, you should go through the
> pain (very little
> > other than that pain applied to your wallet)for
> both the OS and the
> > Application Suite. I've been running both, full
> time and exclusively,
> > since their release. Here are the creteria I use
> for that opinion:
> >
> > 1. Compressed Time - In the computer industry, a
> lifetime of more than
>
> > 24 months is a long time. It seems only yesterday
> that you installed
> > Windows 98 and Office 2000. Sorry chum, that's
> been at least 3 years
> > for the operating system and at least 1 for the
> application suite. If
> > you wait much longer, you'll be at least 2
> versions behind what's
> > going on with your applications and you're already
> 2 versions behind
> > on the OS.
> >
> > 2. Old software problems continue to this day,
> unpatched - NT4 for
> > will never approach the security of W2K and W2K
> will
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