I can't imagine how subtotals would work. There will be eventually 100 maybe 150 kids in families. It won't be a database. So I guess I could make another column and number the families if I can manage to think of (especially if a sibling joins later). I just figured there might be an automated way. I'll hold out for Ray to weigh in and if he doesn't I may just do what you suggested, Glenda. Thanks. Kathie -- Kathie Felts Executive Director Blooming Prairie Center Deep Roots, Bright Futures, Unlimited Horizons ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************