Lucy, I think her birthday is the fourth. I have it listed with her phone
number.
Mark Martin, 73.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lucy Edmonds
To: msb-alumni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:03 PM
Subject: [msb-alumni] Re: Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
Well, I'm really behind on some of my messages here, but just saw this one.
If I remember correctly Mark, Miss Manning's birthday is May 4 isn't it?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 21, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Mark Martin <mbmartin1984@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know you don't have a problem with it, the thing is I don't know if it's
possible to offend the unoffendable! Somehow I don't even think that's even a
word. Oh well, I don't think I should blame Miss Manning for this one, whom I
did recently talk to on her birthday. She seems to be doing pretty well by the
way.
Mark Martin, 73.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard McKinley
To: msb-alumni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:48 PM
Subject: [msb-alumni] Re: Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
I'll offend ya. I don't have a problem with it. LOL.
On May 21, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Mark Martin <mbmartin1984@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The operative word here is if. How would I know if I have offended
you. There are times when I think we know for sure, but there are others when
I don't know how someone may take something I have said. I like to think you
would be a better judge of that then I would be. I would never force you to
accept an apology that you don't wish to. You could even choose to ignore the
message.
Mark Martin, 73.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kalan J. Weingartz
To: msb-alumni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:19 PM
Subject: [msb-alumni] Re: Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
Why would I be offended?
On 2016-05-21 03:40 PM, Mark Martin wrote:
Thanks Steve, your point is well taken, and I apologize to Karen
and Kalan or anyone else if I have offended in any way.
Mark Martin, 73.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: msb-alumni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:28 AM
Subject: [msb-alumni] Re: Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
Larry,
Personally, you expressed my thoughts. I don't think, nor would
I expect Stevie to be as attached to the school as we were because most of the
time he was out on the road performing and with his tutor Ted Hull. Because of
his early success, the school was more of an enabler for him by being able to
contract with Hull to educate Stevie while he was on the road. I think that
MSB took advantage of this in some form of self-aggrandizement, more than
Stevie giving of himself back to the school. Yes, he did give performances
there and participated in a Christmas play, and occasionally, he was at the
school for short stretches when he wasn't touring.
In this sense, Stevie was much different than Ronnie Milsap at
the North Carolina School, Ray Charles at the Florida School, or Clarence
Carter at the Alabama School for the Blind, all of whom didn't have the career
or notoriety when they were students.
I did a Nexis search in the past using the Lexis/Nexis service.
From what I recall, MSB did more identification with Stevie than the other way
around. If you compare this to, say, Clarence Carter or Ray Charles, I think
they had a lot more tied into their early education at their respective blind
schools than Stevie did.
I think that leads to my opinion that he isn't particularly a
strong supporter of MSB; although in my mind, that really doesn't matter now
since there is no MSB to really support, except the institution that lives on
in our minds.
This is separate and distinct from my opinion of what Steve does
for humanity. You couldn't find a stronger advocate for humanitarian causes;
and certainly not for integrating products for the blind to use than Steve or
Mike May.
Now, let me become a bit more unpopular...
What was stated by some listers that he wasn't supportive of the
school is not really character assassination. Character assassination requires
that the fact be untrue and that it be stated with the motive of running down
the other person's reputation. In this case, there was no such motive; just an
opinion.
I'm frankly disappointed in two things having to do with this.
First, I think some people jumped on others for expressing how
they felt. That's disappointing. There was a lot of defensiveness and
demeaning in some of this, very disappointed in that. As Donald Trump would
say "OKAY???"
Second, the organization behind this supposed Birthday Party. If
they are using this as a means of fund-raising, they are purporting a fraud on
the public. I'm sure they knew, or reasonably should have known, that Stevie
would not be appearing as such a function. To attempt to tie into his birthday
and conducting the event at the former Gym of MSB, to me reeks of deceit and
deception.
Steve
Class of '72
----- Original Message -----
From: lkeeler@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: msb-alumni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:22 AM
Subject: [msb-alumni] Re: Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
Hey Marrk, I heard that Stevie was on the road a lot while at the
school. I've also heard that he offered free tickets to his concerts to MSB and
noone took them. I only mention that because I wonder if the bond between him
and the school was different than ours.
From: Mark Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:11 AM
To: MSB Alumni
Subject: [msb-alumni] Celebrity and Schools for the Blind
I got to thinking about how many schools for the blind can boast
of an alumnus as well known as Stevie? I can think of a couple of others,
Ronnie Milsap from the Governor Morehead School in North Carolina, and Ray
Charles from Florida. How supportive have they been? Personally I don't know.
Those of you who apparently track these things could perhaps fill us in! Maybe
this would give you the satisfaction in knowing they have been more supportive
of their schools, or maybe they have done no better. We here in Michigan have
nothing left to support. I actually don't know the status of Florida and North
Carolina. We have two Christmas concerts with Stevie singing solos. How many
schools for the blind can lay claim to that, and how about Stevie writing one
of his best known songs right there on our campus! "My Cherie Amour" reached
the number 4 position on the national Billboard charts in 1969. What is behind
this anyway? Envy? Jealousy? Why hasn't Stevie obtained a car for _me! After
all, I shared the same campus with him! Better yet, I was in the same classroom
with him a few times! Personally, I know he owes me absolutely nothing. Would
you be willing to trade your freedom to come and go in public without being
harassed for your autograph, pound of flesh and whatever else? Oh yeah! the
money would be great but I don't know about the rest for me. A number of years
ago I was sent to and ear specialist in Lapeer, and somehow the subject of MSB
and the fact that Stevie Wonder had graduated from there was discussed. This
really interested the doctor so upon my next visit I brought my 1969 yearbook
so he could see Stevie there. The guy went nearly nuts for a couple of minutes
and really appreciated me showing me that book and showed it off to some of his
staff. What is it that makes some of us blind folks so critical! Is it the
high rate of unemployment or what? We have someone in our alumni that few
other schools for the blind can claim.
Mark Martin, 73.
