Yes I feel the same way that you and Marcia feel Steve.
On Jun 12, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Steve <pipeguy920@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't usually seear, but the UEB code certainly deserves a few choice words.
To clean it up for the list, they can throw the whole damned UEB code out as
far as I'm concerned. They should go back to the Bana Text Braille code in
most instances. UEB takes up more cells for similar content and it's a pain in
the butt to read on smaller Braille displays.
So, in my view, this survey is a waste of time if it only deals with the
representation of the single quote.
I'll bet a majority of the blind Braille reader population feels the same way.
Steve
Class of '72
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To: MSB Alumni
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Subject: [msb-alumni] Braille Authority of North America?survey about proposed
changes to UEB
This came from another list. Maybe there's some interest here.
From: "Kim.Charlson--- via BANA-Announce" <bana-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bana-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Date: June 10, 2017 at 7:36:25 PM PDT
To: <BANA-Announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [BANA-Announce] Survey on Quotation Marks & Apostrophes in UEB
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The UEB Code Maintenance Committee is seeking opinions on a possible change to
the representation of single quotation marks and apostrophes in UEB.
An explanatory document (in print and braille) and survey link are located on
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The survey will be open for the month of June.
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representation of single quotation marks and the apostrophe to facilitate
translation and reading on electronic braille devices. The explanatory document
gives an explanation of the problem and the options under consideration.
(Thanks to James Bowden, UK, and Leona Holloway, Australia, for their work on
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