> Gentlemen, I think I read someplace, back in the Dark Ages, that Carbide tool bits would NOT stand up to > intermittent cuts at all and would chip badly when used for such operations. > Al Messer Al, I think that was more common with the first carbide tooling than it is now. In fact the early tools required that there be an entry and exit chamfer on castings so the tool would not unload or load suddenly lest it break. Carbide has improved a great deal and when I was working at the aluminum rolling mill the same caveats were being touted for the new ceramic tool bits as were quoted for the early carbides. I am sure the ceramic tools have improved enough that maybe they will withstand shock loads. Jesse, machinist retired, Tennessee USA MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.