Hi All, I tend to use Viton O rings for steam and sliding joints, the only snag being that untill I read Craig's e-mail I did not realise that there were different types so perhaps I have been lucky. Long before Martin Evans started specifing O rings for the steam pipe joints at the front tube plate I had worked out that it was far easier to make a compression joint using O rings than all the fun and games of trying to screw a bush onto the steam pipe from the regulator while at the same time screwing the bush into the front tube plate and get it all steam tight. I also make compression joints for the steam and exhaust connections to the steam chests. I have never used Silicone O rings for sliding joints,despite the fact that ME suppliers recommend them owing to the fact that the O ring manufacturers say that Silicone cannot mechanical wear. Any comment please Craig? Regards Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Gluyas" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: O rings > As a former seal specialist for a valve manufacturer, i guess this is my > area! > > O-rings are very suited to our uses, we just have to be careful what > material to use. Silicone is about the best & most widely suitable for -15 > to 200'C. Other materials vary, even to within blends. For example Viton A > is not recommended for use with steam where as Viton B or Viton GF is. > Viton is good for about the same temperatures as Silicone. > > Other seals such as EPDM and Nitrile are readily available, but are less > tolerant to chemicals (Natural Rubber does not like Oils for example) > > An excellent compatibility website used in the industry is available here > http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/ChemComp.asp > > > Hope that helps! > > Craig > > > >> There is a discussion on a message board about the use of O rings in >> model >> steam engines. >> Both the types and where they are, or are not, suitable, together with >> the >> advantages /disadvantages of them compared to other forms of seal. >> >> What opinions do members here have? >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line. >> > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1799 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 08:58 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.