Rich, was this the same Mr. Steel that wrote the book on "Model Engineering---"? It was a very good book, and I think it had a traction engine in it as well as some other sketches. At the time the book was published, I think that the plans were available from MAP, not quite sure as it has been several years since I had a copy. Al Messer, in foggy mid-Tennessee __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.