[MoAccess] motif xs tutoreal.
- From: lui chee chau <lcheechau@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:13:27 -0800 (PST)
hi, i heard before, some one did a tutoreal on motif xs, i believe it is about
the key layout or some thing like that. is it still on the moaccess webside?
how do i access it? many thanks.
Chee Chau.
--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Jose Abreu <jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Jose Abreu <jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:50 AM
> Well, actually, I'm not having that problem anymore
> cause I'll just not use
> track one in Sonar. I love the Motif XS. When the ES came
> out, I learned
> it was much more accessible than the Korg boards, but, to
> be honest, I was
> not sold on the sounds. For Latin sequences, I still very
> much preferred
> the Korg sounds on the Karma. However, that is no longer
> true with the
> release of the XS. The XS blows Korg out of the water, and
> out of my band
> and my studio for good.
>
> A huge thanks to those of you who came before me, and are
> opening the way.
> Special mention to Damon for sharing his knowledge directly
> with me, and,
> patiently, answering some of my idiotic questions, like how
> to load a sound
> file. I will try to help out when I can as I am now fully
> sold on the XS
> and will put a lot of time into it. I'll try to put
> together some other
> notes like the file mode notes I sent recently.
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Sorry that you're having problems. There are many
> settings to work out,
> for sure.
>
> Very soon, I will be releasing a complete setup package for
> using the
> Motif with Sonar, both for basic MIDI sequencing for those
> of you that
> have USB connections, as well as a fully integrated
> all-digital
> multi-bus setup for those of you that have mLAN.
>
> I know that the Motif has been out for almost two years
> now, and, for a
> while, it has seemed like the ES is the board with superior
> accessibility. This is because a lot of the XS benefits
> have been slow
> in coming due to the many pieces that have been involved,
> and the
> nothing that myself and those that have helped me make for
> doing all of
> this work to simplify the process for those of you that
> aren't so techy.
>
> Before anything could be done, we needed good access to
> many Motif XS
> capabilities. We needed good documentation on the Motif XS,
> and how to
> get around its control panels. We needed to get a good
> stable PC-based
> editor for allowing us to remote control many of its
> functions
> (including the Jaws scripts). We needed Yamaha to make some
> basic
> changes in the firmware that have gradually made these
> other goals
> possible (fixing bugs that prevented editor functions from
> working,
> adding keyboard support so that we can actually type
> filenames when
> saving, etc).
>
> To use the Motif XS as part of a larger accessible studio
> on a PC, we
> needed to accomplish other goals. The mLAN drivers
> didn't work so well
> with Sonar in the early days, and we had to wait for those
> problems to
> be sorted out. Of course, the editors are a big part of
> working in
> Sonar, since they control the Motif mixing functions. Also,
> accessibility in Sonar itself has come quite a long way in
> the last two
> years, particularly with the enhancements to CakeTalking.
> Sonar 8, with
> its features, external inserts in particular, will make
> working with the
> Motif XS a lot like using a softsynth. You Sonar users will
> be able to
> sequence in Sonar and have your creations rendered from
> start to finish
> in complete digital form without having to manually record
> in track
> after track of sequenced MIDI data from the Motif to audio
> tracks.
>
> Many advanced users have put their toes in to some of these
> areas, some
> trying mLAN, others using the editors. However, I don't
> know any blind
> people that are using the full system as intended. Even
> those that are
> trail blazers must put up with lots of configuration
> headaches together
> with trial and error. That will change very soon. We are
> reaching the
> point where the pieces are finally coming together.
>
> When I started out creating electronic music 15 years ago,
> I didn't know
> other blind people that were doing what I was doing. I
> bought a lot of
> crap gear, memorized many screens, and frustrated myself
> beyond
> description. The only good thing that came of all that is
> that I learned
> these techniques for memorizing gear and, of course, got my
> MIDI-knight
> black belt. My intension from the beginning with MoAccess
> has been to
> make the Motif for all of you, what it has been for me, a
> wonderful
> instrument that helped me create music instead of mess with
> lots of
> equipment. I think that this is particularly important for
> blind people,
> since, not only do most of us have no idea what the cryptic
> configuration options mean, but we have the added
> disadvantage that we
> are unable to see the screens on the gear to read the
> cryptic
> configuration options.
>
> Hopefully, the Motif XS can replace the old Kurzweils in
> peoples' minds
> as the accessible workstation. It already has been, but
> most people just
> don't understand it yet.
>
> Anyway, when is the question. The answer is 1-2 weeks.
> I'm going to CSUN
> this year, and I'd like to be able to talk this stuff
> up when I'm there.
> I really hope that Yamaha releases their drum voices by
> then, as I'd
> like to include them in some all files that I've built,
> but that part is
> completely out of my control. Still, it is a small little
> piece.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose
> Abreu
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:31 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Well, I solved my problem, but there's still an
> academic question out
> there.
> I moved the piano in track 1 of Sonar to another track, 13,
> and assigned
> it
> to midi channel 1. It now responds to the volume control.
> So, the
> problem
> is not on midi channel 1, but rather on Sonar's track
> 1. At this point
> it's
> academic, I will just not use track 1, but I do still
> wonder why this
> is.
>
> Jose
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Cable from computer to keyboard. Must first download Yamaha
> Universal
> MIDI driver from YamahaSynth.com, but is easy setup.
>
> mLAN does the same thing over a Firewire cable, but also
> provides 11
> stereo (or 22 mono) channels of digital I/O for routing
> audio in to, or
> out of, DAW apps like Sonar.
>
> Bryan
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> So, to use the USB connection instead of midi, I can just
> connect a
> cable
> from the computer to the keyboard, or do I need the
> optional lan
> adaptor?
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> With USB, you are abler to do more than just midi, you can
> also use the
> remote functions and coming soon, even more. I think there
> are 3 ports
> that
> the USB uses... I forget what they all do though. I know
> that a is midi,
> one
> is remote, and I forget what that other is at the moment.
> Maybe Smart
> can
> chime in here and back me up?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> I was wrong then about the insertion fx. I do remember
> though that it
> was
> discussed on here a while ago how USB connection has
> advantages over
> MIDI.
> Yes, no?
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
> AIM: LOD1116
> Skype: obinno1
> Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
> Really? I'm not sure how this can be. MIDI doesn't
> have anything
> to
> do with if the Motif uses its insert effects processors or
> not, as far
> as I
> know.
>
>
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar
> Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>
> When you use the motif via midi through sonar, you lose
> the
> insertion fx that you have on the first 8 tracks of a
> project. If you
> use it
> through USB, you can get those fx and it sounds alot nicer.
> I'm not sure
> if
> that would fix the problem you're currently having, but
> just thought i'd
> pass that bit of info along.
>
>
>
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
>
>
> AIM: LOD1116
> Skype: obinno1
> Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>
> There's no real reason, except this is the set up
> I've
> had
> for a while. I only use the connection to create sequences
> in Sonar
> using
> the XS, and to record sequences from sonar into the XS
> using the record
> all
> tracks function. I only change my set up once every 5 or
> so years.
> Once
> I'm confortable with a set up, I don't like to
> change it, even if it's,
> potentially, for the better. For example, I still use a
> Layla20 sound
> card.
> It records at a lower resolution than many more modern
> cards, like the
> Layla24, and a more recent Echoaudio card called Audiofire.
> However,
> this
> set up works fine for me, and I don't spend have of my
> studio time
> fixing
> connection problems. I do have a p4 computer, not a
> comodor64!
> However, I
> don't have a dual or quad core computer cause, once
> again, mine works
> fine.
>
>
>
> Jose
>
>
>
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar
> Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>
> I'm just curious: why are you connecting your motif
> via
> Midi
> rather than USB?
>
>
>
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
>
>
> AIM: LOD1116
> Skype: obinno1
> Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM
>
> Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>
> Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar volume
> setting
> on midi channel 1? I
> have my XS connected to my computer via midi
> through
> my Layla sound card.
> In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is always
> at
> the highest level (127).
> It won't change. The volume for all of the
> other
> channels change as I
> adjust them in Sonar. I use Sonar 2.2. Yes,
> that's
> right, 2.2. It works
> fine for me. I have dealt with this in the past
> by
> simply setting the
> keyboard not to receive control data, and
> creating
> templates on the keyboard
> with the settings I want. However, I'm curious
> to
> know why this is
> happening. I remember it also happening with my
> Yamaha S80. I dealt with
> the problem the same way. I don't think it
> happens
> with the Karma, but I
> don't remember because, with the Karma, I always
> disabled control data
> without even checking if this was a problem.
> Thanks.
>
> Jose.
>
>
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