Re: [MoAccess] Things that make midi notes stick
- From: Bobbi Blood <phantomess666@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:49:54 -0600
Hey again,
DJX, You rock. My bad for doing the silliest thing around. I was messing
around on a song I already had recorded internally and so I think it was the
channel info that was all screwy. I didn't install the instrument definitions
yet either so that's gonna be my next step. Soon as I moved to a blank song
and started messing about, everything worked just fine. Nothing is sticking
now and tracks are recording and playing back just fine, Yay! I still need to
make sure my audio setup is okay though, as I'm not picking up the audio from
my synthesizer in the headphones which are connected through my Firebox. I
think when I checked it last night, I was hearing from the headset connected to
my synth. LOL oops. But that's kind of another topic altogether. I'm gonna
mess round with it a bit more to see what I can figure out. I'm so excited I
can hardly see straight! Expect an off list Email from me soonishly about some
off topic stuff. I'm acting on a hunch here and thought it wouldn't hurt to
ask you. Anyway, thanks again!
Most Sincerely,
Bobbi
From: D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:26 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Things that make midi notes stick
Hi, it sounds like your connections are all setup correctly.
I usually select midi omni for inputs and outputs, and select a channel through
the track properties. Did you make sure to select a channel?
Try recording midi onto a soft synth track, where the midi is just bening
received by sonar. See if notes stick then. I'm not sure what the quick seq
setups exactly do or change, on the eS I just shut off local and rock on, it
has a sequencer setup, but it's for remote mode. The problem could be something
there. Latency as we know it isn't really an issue, midi is basic enough that
it can be handled with no problems. It sounds like data such as note off msg
are being dropped or something.
You can try checking cables to be sure they work, or switch to USB mode
temporarily to see if the problem persists; if so, then it's prob a setting on
the motif.
To check for drivers (which shouldn't be the issue), you'll have to go through
the manufacturer's website and look on the page for the interface, see what the
latest driver was before they discontinued it; if you're using original cd
drivers there should be a later version.
Asio is an audio thing, it has nothing to do with midi, don't mix the 2 up,
midi is just performance data and messages, what note to press, how long to
hold it for, how strong to play it etc, audio is the actual sound. I've never
heard of any recent/modern interfaces having issues with midi (though that
doesn't mean it doesn't happen), as it's usually a streightforward send/receive
type of deal, sonar and the motif do the midi interpretations. I know that the
new midisport 2x2 from m-audio has midi latency issues, but that was supposedly
fixed with a firmware update.
The reason you can't technically quantize the digital audio (though you really
can somewhat quantize it with sonar's tools), but the digital audio signal that
the motif sends via SPDIF is converted back to analog at the audio interface
and then reproduced by it and/or sonar's audio engine. So it doesn't stay in
the digital realm; by the time you hear the audio, it's been converted back to
sound waves; otherwise, you'd just hear a static type of sound, sort of like
when you put a data cd on an auio cd-player. Midi is always digital, because
it's just information on how the synthesizer is suppose to play back the
sounds. You can think of midi like meta info, kind of like html; it tells the
browser how to display the data and gives it the data, but each browser
interprets it in its own way. So sonar receives the midi info as ones and
zeros, and can do whatever it wants with it such as quantize it before it sends
it to the synth to play it. Audio is played or sent via the fx bin as soon as
it's received. This is a rough explanation, it's more involved with more
details, but it's the main idea, midi stays digital and can be altered, the
audio does not, even if it's sent digitally, it's converted back to it's
original audio form.
There's alot to learn and grasp, but you're well on your way! If you need more
in depth help with any of it all, feel free to contact me off list, as I offer
tutoring services on all this stuff and more.
Regards, D!J!X!
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