Yeah, having problems with either iChat or with some sites I would be a little more sanguine about. Losing both, however, is making me a little crazy. And I mean, I still love Apple, and I have every faith they'll fix this eventually, but what's frustrating is that this is the second, subsequent release of major software that's had some really big VO bugs in it--and bugs that were almost immediately obvious to those of us who used the programs. It makes me wonder how thoroughly they're testing the software with VO, or how many VO users they've got in their beta pool. And again, I'm confident these issues will get resolved, but we've got no way of having an accurate time frame for that, and in the meantime, we're losing access to things some of us use on a daily basis. On 9 Jun 2010, at 16:31, Mary Otten wrote: > Tim, > Have you had success on the Audible.com site? I did delete cookies, but > as soon as I signed in to Audible, thus creating a cooky, the problem > started all over. Even rolling back to a previous version of Safari via > time machine did not help. I've relearned a valuable lesson. Never > upgrade immediately. Ichat and Audible are useless to me right now > because I was so interested in that new reader feature I threw caution > to the wind. > > Mary > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >