You can also see what is running by opening the Activity Monitor App in the Utilities folder in Applications. TF On 21/01/2013, at 12:32 PM, Keith Brown <kbrown7@xxxxxxx> wrote: thanks for your help, that's as i thought but it says 3 running and vo and f1 just give me finder. so are there 2 hidden apps running ? i have visited the users group in system prefs and removed or hidden any apps so am completely at a loss. might just have to re-install. thanks though much appreciated. Keith Brown On 20 Jan 2013, at 23:15, Tuscia-Falconer <falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hold down VO and press f1 twice, this will give you a list you can scroll > through with the up and down arrows. > To close a selected App, press Cmd + Q. > > TF > > On 21/01/2013, at 11:54 AM, Keith Brown <kbrown7@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > another question. > when i press option, ctrl, and F1 I am told there are 3 running > applications. how do i list them or shut them down if not needed. > thanks > Keith Brown > >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >