Smile, that's why I use headphones so I don't have that problem. On 2009-11-10, at 9:14 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > The IPhone is very impressive for many reasons. I tried it for a few weeks, > and sadly had to return it and go back to my Nokia E71. I'd really like to > stick with it, but I can't switch to it for every day use until some version > comes out that fixes these problems: > > Its tough to use touch tones when on a call. If you call some system that > needs you to enter an account code, or even press 1 for sales, you need to > fumble around for the keypad button, then fumble around for the buttons on > the touch keypad. It is easy for phone systems to time out on you while you > feel around the screen. Plus, you must hold the phone away from your head > while doing all of this, or the IPhone will lock the screen. This problem is > compounded by... > > I like the speech synthesizer, but it isn't loud enough to easily hear when > in noisy environments. Working a phone menu or voicemail on speaker phone > while out in public isn't easy to manage with the quiet speaker. > > The battery life is very poor. I understand that you can get extender battery > packs, but I wasn't able to try these. With the stock battery, I was barely > able to get a day and a half of use, and that was with Bluetooth off, wifi > off, 3G off, screen at 0 brightness, etc. Having to turn all of this off was > a real downer, as those features are a big reason to own the phone. > > All of the really cool blind guy software isn't on the IPhone. No KNFB Reader > or similar OCR solution, and the IPhone camera wouldn't be up to the task, > anyway. No MobileGeo or WayFinder Access, though I did find several GPS apps > that provide some varying levels of accessibility, none that matches the > speech feedback of the blind-guy versions. I'm sure that more of this kind of > software will come in time, though. > > Not sure what Apple could do to make the touch tone experience better. > Perhaps some setting could be added to have the keypad always be visible when > you're on a call. It would still be a little cumbersome to use, but this > would save a step. Battery packs might help the power issues. The software > situation will certainly improve over time. > > Anyway, the interface is quite a revolutionary approach, and Apple gets huge > points for including VoiceOver as a standard feature. The 3rd-party software > support is also quite a nice selling point. I don't doubt that the IPhone > will improve. I might even keep the next one. > > As a little post script here, I can't wait to see what sort of accessible GPS > apps come to be on the IPhone. Having Mobile Geo or WayFinder Access tell you > what's around you is one thing, but it would be so much better if you could > run your finger around the screen and get speech feedback about nearby points > of interest. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:42 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] iPhone and Voiceover. > > Hi folks, > > I have had my iPhone from about 3 weeks after it came out, but, I have just > now had the time to learn more about it. > > Oh yes I have made calls and did a little internet stuff, but, in the last > few weeks I have really learned the beauty of this little phone. > > I have added apps for finding food and motels, finding my location, I have > some of my internet sites bookmarked that I check every day and just this > weekend added Ebay because there were some things I wanted to watch. > > I am using facebook, but, I don't use the app, I use Facebook mobile, > m.facebook.com > > I use it mostly for reading updates. > > Just this weekend I chose to learn to use mail, soI have the list on my > iPhone, what a hoot. > > In short, I really like my iPhone. > > Keith Reedy > > Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from > Bibles For The Blind. > > http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml > > God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. 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