[macvoiceover] R: Re: nfb trashes voiceover:
- From: <koumanova_rostislava@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:14:06 +0200 (CEST)
hello dan,
i agree with you.
i have just registered a web, on which i will try to organise the same thing as
blind cool tech in italian.
on the other side i registered another site : www.ilovemac..... where i will be
talking about mac and speccialy the things that mac does in terms of dayily use.
together with another italian guy we started mac match point which is
inspired by the screenless swichers podcasts. now i am looking to find folks to
interview about voice over developments. this saturday we are presenting the
key nottes and i hope that we can make demo of iphone voice over.
feel free to suggest podcasts and if you are interested we can make the
italian version of your amadeus demo.
thanx for your interest and i am looking forward of further cooperation.
rossy
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Da: va3ets@xxxxxxxx
Data: 12/06/2009 4.56
A: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ogg: [macvoiceover] Re: nfb trashes voiceover:
Well like a lot of people in this comunity have been doing podcasts and
tutorials in English, I think it would be good if you had some podcasts
produced in Italian, as that I think would definitely make people over there
aware of the Mac and VO, and it's potential.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Rossy wrote:
i don't want to bother anybody but all these discussions leave some questions
....
if you are not interested just press del! if somebody can anser my questions
write me off list.
1. jaws vs pc , is a long discussion , but i belive that i was happy with jaws
, but i could not keep my windows or pc working,. i choosed mac just because i
did not want windows eyes or anyother pc short live machine.
2. i teach jaws , free of charge to an older people , but there are few if any
of my students that can get really independent on their own even in simple
tasks, i belive that mac is very much easier for us normal people which use
coputer for readingm mail and web. as i teach free of charge i apreciate that
with little efforts i can achieve a lot of independence. maybe if i make me pay
it would be a different story.
3. my local blind orgnaisation is trying to follow up the aplle , and they are
not against any mac, byt they would like to develop the braille support in
italian and i must admit that apple is very closed for outsiders, of course
this means more stability but also it means that i get no braille unless they
make it , i mean italian braille. for me personally it is not a question
because i don't use it!
the question is :
why apple does not involve the associations for blind ? would not be easier to
have some blinds in there.... instead of trying up to guess their policy ? for
example here in italy , the mac is ideal for my over 60 years students , but
they don't speak english neither can search on internet solutions for their
problems, apple support is very good , but in italy it does not even know of
voice over. just for these i don't mind if the blind organizations are involved
but nobody knows from where to begin.
i don't know how it works in the states , but in italy there is a lot of noise
as soon as some speaking miracle turns on , i guess that if apple wants can
make much, much more noise. but it does not get involved in this policy.
leaves to the others in that sense, why?
the final line ! for example if there would be voice over in italian integrated
i don't have to pay because the state gives me up to 1200 euro for a screen
reader, apple .... why don't think about it , i know a bunch of freaks that
wold swich just for this reason.
after this boring paragrapg i ask how can somebody organise learnig seminars
with the apple assistance?
rk
Il giorno 10/giu/09, alle ore 14:10, David Poehlman ha scritto:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Anne Robertson <conseil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: June 10, 2009 3:50:14 AM EDT
To: Snow Leopard <seedvosnowleopard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: And a beta tester wrote this
Hello everyone,
I just read this article and noticed that it was written by someone on this
list. I wouldn't mind if the observations were fair and reasonable, but they're
not.
Who ever heard of anyone learning to use Windows with Jaws without training?
Apple is being held to a completely different standard from any other hardware
or software or screenReader provider.
Here's the link:
All;
While not surprising, This article certainly shows a good deal of what the nfb
is all about here and this after they went around saying they were responsible
for apple making ITunes and the IPod accessible.
http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0906/bm090606.htm
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