Xtools has always been accessible with voiceover, since early in the 1.2 series. The problem isn't with the ide, it's with the interface builder for cocoa projects. It's still impossible to build a cocoa program interface from scratch without sighted assistance.
It always has been, and still is.Admittedly, with each new release of xtools, the inaccessible items become fewer, but it's still not there.
On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:26 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
You might want to try xtools under 10.5 it now seems to have become accessible.Greg On Aug 5, 2007, at 22:11 , Rich Caloggero wrote:Do you use an IDE to write Java, or a simple text editor?If you use an IDE, which one? How easy is it to lookup documentation for a function, class, or any other object the cursor is placed on? Can you compile and run something from the editor, and then be taken to the offending line ofcode via a keypress if there are errors? -- Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <windowbridge@xxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Programming on the macActually, if you are familiar with java, you can write quite usable programs under os X with java. The added benefit there is that you really don't have to bother withthe gui layout if you don't want to, you can simply select one of thepreconfigured layouts (grid is my favorite) then any graphical elements you add to the screen are handled automatically, and addingthe code behind the controls is relatively straightforward (after youget over the initial confusion of how it all works)I have a few java apps I'm testing here, that are working fine for me,and once I get a bit better at java, I may add them to my softcon selections. On Aug 2, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Greg Williams wrote:Hi, I know that XTools doesn't work well with VO, but is there any way to develop GUI applications? I've been learning Ruby, and it would be nice to be able to write some programs that actually use a GUI. Any advice would be very useful. Thanks. GregClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email tomacvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover- request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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