Well it is a sad day but I am taking my new Mac back for a refund. The speech won't keep up with what I do. It continually says busy and doesn't read correctly what i have written. This is despite a lot of time spent on the phone with their technicians. My only worry is hoe to get usable copies of my "on my mac" folders in iMail. For some reason I can't get iMail to talk to iCloud and my Macbookpro runs Snow Leopard. Regards, David Poyner Chairman and webmaster of Blind Veterans UK Bowmen formerly St Dunstans http://www.blindveteransukbowmen.org.uk Chairman of British Blind Sport Archery http://www.bbsarchery.org.uk