[macvoiceover] Re: Data Detector Present Message in Mail messages
- From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:42:54 -0500
I agree that Data Detectors are useful, what I find annoying about them,
though, is that VO will sometimes issue the command to speak "data detector
present" in a manner that stomps on something it is already saying and, in some
cases, one cannot get to the text they actually want to hear. Rathering than
waiting for speech to stop or inserting the announcement and then resuming, it
just stomps on the previous text being spoken which can be really frustrating
sometimes.
In JAWS, we had augmentations like this one read aloud when the user was
navigating by word or by line and we integrated the augmentation in with the
main text. In SayAll, sentence, paragraph or other larger semantic container,
we would turn these off as they killed the flow of what one was reading.
I think our best solution for things like this is to attach some kind of sound
to information like "data detector present" so one can know it's there and
continue reading or stop and use the feature. JAWS, HPR and others have done
this very effectively with web materials. JAWS also lets you use its
pronunciation dictionary to change a word to a sound and, as sounds play at the
same time as the text, one saves a lot of time reading highly augmented
information.
cdh
On Dec 27, 2009, at 4:30 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> they can bne mighty irritating though when one falls on a phone number you
> are trig to read. Every time you tap the right arrow key you hear "data
> detector present." Oh well.
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>
>> Data detectors are useful. It detects dates and times, flight numbers,
>> addresses...all kinds of things. I actually use them sometimes and I love
>> that feature. You can vo shift m on them to open a context menu with options
>> to work with them.
>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On my Snow Leopard machine, running mail, when viewing mail messages in Mac
>>> Mail, I get a message every few lines that says "Data Detector Present".
>>> Does anybody know what this means and how I can get rid of it?
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
>>>
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