no, but you can put one in a papoose pack. they are sooooooooo cute! On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: but you can't have a guide cat. On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > cats would do it for me. > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for everyone. > You learn something about people quickly as well either that they are > animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are tech > enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > >> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now as for >> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone or >> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the Braille >> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because >> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that they >> didn't. LOL. >> >> Sharon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the iPad >> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 and >> $999 price tag >> >> >> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to >> drop the thread. >> >> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I think >> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer >> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific or >> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion >> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it >> stood out more. >> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone doesn't >> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's >> iPhone because it is. >> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will sit >> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting and >> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to late >> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. >> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of >> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take >> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, >> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with >> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really >> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically attracted >> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she realizes >> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. WHere >> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. >> Does that make sense? >> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think anyone >> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, >> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated >>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases where >>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, >>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our >>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>> >>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think >>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly >>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB >>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>> >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> >>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the >>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that it >>>> talked. >>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) >>>>> heeheee >>>>> >>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are good >>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology >>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same reasons >>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in >>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of >>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction here >>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>> >>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god >>>>>> alight. >>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought >>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy >>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>> Director >>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why >>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing >>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with >>>>>>>>> 128 >>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where this will >>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Jonnie 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