Sorry to barge into this discussion, Richard et al, but to this semi- philosophical mind the following utterance appears to be tautologous: > Wittgenstein: "that of which we cannot speak, of that we should remain > silent" well, if we can't speak of it, it wouldn't be much to say, would there? shouldn't wittgenstein have gone further: ? That of which we cannot speak, we MUST remain silent stay well, -tor -- Torgeir Fjeld torgfje2@xxxxxxxxxx http://home.no.net/torgfje/ ------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by The University of Surrey Roehampton MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html