Grice wrote: "read chimp literature -- cited by Chapman, _Grice_, Palgrave. "He wrote that on a cigarrette package, perhaps implicating something (or other)." --- Sebeok writes about 'chimp literature' "In my opinion, the alleged language experiments with apes divide into three groups." "There's one, outright fraud." "There's two, self-deception." "There's three, those conducted by Terrace." Terrace found that a chimp he observed uttered: give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you. --- "An ape's longest utterance". --- "Part of the problem involves the application of Grice's theory of figures of speech and conversational implicature. It may be argued that the chimp _meant_ something by that which escapes me. Or not." Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html