http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fconnected%2F2004%2F05%2 F05%2Fecfgorilla05.xml&pos=portal_puff1&_requestid=347199 No wonder the ancient Greeks allowed no witness testimony at their trials....(I love the anecdote re. the gorilla). Julie Krueger ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html